Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

     

Left Nav S-B Home FAQ Members List S-B on Facebook Arcade WEAX Tides Buoys Calendar Today's Posts Right Nav

Left Container Right Container
 

Go Back   Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating » Striper Chat - Discuss stuff other than fishing ~ The Scuppers and Political talk » The Scuppers

The Scuppers This is a new forum for the not necessarily fishing related topics...

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 08-05-2008, 03:44 PM   #1
RIROCKHOUND
Also known as OAK
iTrader: (0)
 
RIROCKHOUND's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,413
Wow you are optimistic. I don't think I've seen on analyst predict that large of a drop this winter. I think where we are now is about where we stay; unless we have a major storm.
a lot of people up north are going to have a cold, expensive winter.

Bryan

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
RIROCKHOUND is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2008, 04:39 PM   #2
Backbeach Jake
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Backbeach Jake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
Posts: 5,985
It's all part of our training process. See how high the price can be before we scream and stop driving, then throttle back so it seems like we're getting a deal, but not as low as it was before. Repeat the process over and over, the price goes higher and higher.
BTW, I really don't think that the petro-speculators give a greengoddamn about harming anyone or anything, more oil means more profit, they don't care who can't commute or who freezes. Oil needs to be regulated, energy needs to be regulated.

He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
Backbeach Jake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2008, 05:45 PM   #3
striperman36
Old Guy
iTrader: (0)
 
striperman36's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 8,760
Quote:
Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake View Post
It's all part of our training process. See how high the price can be before we scream and stop driving, then throttle back so it seems like we're getting a deal, but not as low as it was before. Repeat the process over and over, the price goes higher and higher.
BTW, I really don't think that the petro-speculators give a greengoddamn about harming anyone or anything, more oil means more profit, they don't care who can't commute or who freezes. Oil needs to be regulated, energy needs to be regulated.
The silent populous getting soaked for every dime we have.
striperman36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2008, 06:56 PM   #4
justplugit
Registered Grandpa
iTrader: (0)
 
justplugit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: east coast
Posts: 8,592
Quote:
Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake View Post
It's all part of our training process.
Ya, Fred, the monkey never learns.

I'm no expert on oil prices, that's for sure.
Depends on who and where you get your information from. So many contradictions.

I've read where as high as 60% of oil prices are due to speculation.
Therefore if that is true, it would make sense if there is a chance of more oil coming to the market prices on NYMEX would react.

OPEC refers to NYMEX when setting it's prices so it has a big effect.

A few months ago i read where gas would be $5/ gal by Labor Day, and now with people driving a little less and polls showing 70% of the American people
want to drill, oil prices have suddenly dropped from over $157a barrel to today's price of $118.

I've read where the Democrats don't want to vote on the drilling question until after the election.
I've read where the oil companies are to blame, or not.

Charts show that seasonal summer gas price drops start at the end of August but now it's just the beginning of August.

A lot of factors to sort out for sure.

Does anyone really know.

Only thing i know for sure is in these dangerous times we need to start drilling yesterday, as ya can't run tanks and jet fighters on batteries yet.

" Choose Life "
justplugit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2008, 07:13 PM   #5
Scaup
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Fish Chesapeake VA
Posts: 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by justplugit View Post
I've read where the Democrats don't want to vote on the drilling question until after the election.
Dems want to try and hold off on vote because they assume they will gain the WH and retain control of congress and therefore can do something other than be forced to vote on drilling - its political posturing and nothing more - its not based on doing what the American people want.
Scaup is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2008, 07:24 AM   #6
Fishpart
Keep The Change
iTrader: (0)
 
Fishpart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Road to Serfdom
Posts: 3,275
Interestingly enough, as the price of oil drops the DJIA goes up. The speculators have made a fortune on oil and are retreating to the stock market.

Personally as someone who makes stuff for a living, I believe high oil can only help us because it makes artifically low priced Chinese goods more expensive than locally manufactured goods. It also opens up more incentive for people to recycle, thus creating more industry locally to take advantage of less transportation. I just hope my theories become more widely accepted. We need to do things for the right reasons F#$% THE CEO and his board of YES MEN. In the long run doing the right thing for the right reasone will create more value for the shareholders.

“It’s not up to the courts to invent new minorities that get special protections,” Antonin Scalia
Fishpart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2008, 10:17 AM   #7
justplugit
Registered Grandpa
iTrader: (0)
 
justplugit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: east coast
Posts: 8,592
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scaup View Post
- its political posturing and nothing more - its not based on doing what the American people want.
That's why people need to e-mail their representatives expressing their views and check their voting record on the issue.

Like when does the average American have time to do that??

Politcians depend on people not really having the time to make intelligent voting decisions.

They depend on their innuendo ads, if you can't convince them with the facts, dazzle em' with BS.

" Choose Life "
justplugit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2008, 10:35 AM   #8
Joe
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Joe's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 3,650

Global demand has increased 100% over the last year and that is what has pushed oil prices higher.
China and India grew at a remarkable 100% last year.
Somebody pass me the vasoline.

Joe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2008, 06:26 PM   #9
hulkyj61
The one that got away
iTrader: (0)
 
hulkyj61's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: K'Port, ME/Westford, MA
Posts: 118
Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND View Post
Wow you are optimistic. I don't think I've seen on analyst predict that large of a drop this winter. I think where we are now is about where we stay; unless we have a major storm.
a lot of people up north are going to have a cold, expensive winter.
I know the circumstances are not the same but the oil crisis in the 1970's brought record prices to the pumps. Now the dollar amount never came back down to what it was, but it leveled out with inflation during the 1990's. Since there is more demand around the globe today the price is much higher, but should level out as new technologies come about and demand decreases.

These are just my opinions as a business/economics student and what I have read and applied to these real life situations.

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.
hulkyj61 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Please use all necessary and proper safety precautions. STAY SAFE Striper Talk Forums
Copyright 1998-20012 Striped-Bass.com