What Do You Consider To Be The Ideal Conditions for Each Plug Listed

[Frankiesurf]

Plastic swimmers are excellent fish producers for me. Since Numbskull ( ) can't fish them, I will tell you.

Night is usually the best time to fish them but overcast days or dusk/dawn they are also productive. Of course if you fish them enough during the day you are bound to hit something.

Not too much wind is ideal unless it is at your back, then you can sail them out there if need be. If you load them you can get away with a little more wind. Always fish them slower than you think you need to.

I live on the L.I. Sound and these swimmers occupy alot of space in my bag. The Mag Darter has become a go to if the bass are slurping baitfish off the surface, day or night.

During the spring these are a must in your bag for back bay fishing. Tie on a teaser and you have a deadly combination.

[numbskull]

Of course, there is also this viewpoint held by many authorities

1) pencil popper- when there are no fish to eat your eels and you want to have fun casting
2) danny, pikie, surfster type-when you are out of eels and want to feel good about spending money over the winter
3) spook- when bluefish eat your eels and you want to get even
4) subsurface (atom jr, bomber type)- when you don't have time to buy eels
5) surface redfin type- when you are wasting time on schoolies waiting to fish eels after dark
6) needle- when your eels aren't working, there are no bunker to be had, so you go chase breaking tuna instead

[Frankiesurf]

5) surface redfin type- when you are wasting time on schoolies waiting to fish eels after dark - numbskull

If you are just catching schoolies then you might want to move out of that spot. Every plug has its time and place.

Oh yeah. Went out tonight for a little over two hours. Six bass. 4 were high teens into the twenties and 2 shorts. 3 blues. ALL on a Yo-zuri Mag Darter. Thats a plastic swim bait by the way.

[Tagger]

This could be a great thread and very helpful to many .. Good topic . Please don't let this one go bad.. Any experience/opions welcome .

[Flaptail]

Pencil Popper: Daybreak on the canal when the tide has turned east at dawn Mackerel this year, low water incoming at dawn on the outer beach and the pencil should be white, high slack over grass beds in CC Bay May and June and should be yellow.
Danny, Surfster, Pikie: Anytime of year cast from shore or boat especially into the rocks along the Elizabeths, dawn/dusk along the back beach. With a skin at night just about anywhere.
Spook: See pencil popper cc bay and along the Elizabeths.
Atom Jr: Night time along the Elizabeths casting from boat, running tide in the dark last hour at the canal. Add skin for exra pleasure.
Surface Redfin type: Only use them loaded and only 7 inch.
Needlefish: 90% of the time at night anywhere after July 1st.

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by Frankiesurf

Oh yeah. Went out tonight for a little over two hours. Six bass. 4 were high teens into the twenties and 2 shorts. 3 blues. ALL on a Yo-zuri Mag Darter. Thats a plastic swim bait by the way. Dumbass

How did you learn my middle name? You been talking to Flap?

[Back Beach]

Originally Posted by Frankiesurf

Looks like I will forget about this site again, maybe you will go away. Probably not so most likely I will.

Do so until your capacity to detect sarcasm improves. We love that stuff here, BTW.
Come back in six months with a thicker dermal layer. Numbskull, dumbass, et al, and I will hold the fort until then.

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by Frankiesurf

5) surface redfin type- when you are wasting time on schoolies waiting to fish eels after dark - numbskull

If you are just catching schoolies then you might want to move out of that spot. Every plug has its time and place. Just because you can't figure that out you shouldn't bash it. I could say bait is for morons who can't fish plugs but I know it has its spot in the rotation. After reading quite a few of your posts it seems you don't really care what the thread is about, you just want to increase your total post number.

Looks like I will forget about this site again, maybe you will go away. Probably not so most likely I will.


GO YANKEES!!!! F THE PATS


Oh yeah. Went out tonight for a little over two hours. Six bass. 4 were high teens into the twenties and 2 shorts. 3 blues. ALL on a Yo-zuri Mag Darter. Thats a plastic swim bait by the way. Dumbass

If you paid a little more attention to this site, instead of flying off the handle, you would know that George (numbskull) is an intelligent, insightful individual who often writes tongue in cheek.

Suit yourself on leaving/staying.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Mike P

If you paid a little more attention to this site, instead of flying off the handle, you would know that George (numbskull) is an intelligent, insightful individual who often writes tongue in cheek.

Suit yourself on leaving/staying.

I think George is probably a hyper-normal individual. Kindasorta the Ned Flanders of the Wire Trolling fishing world yet he allows his Alter-Ego to flourish in our little corner of the Internet. Secretly, he fishes Eels and does not consider the usability of plugs unless he's simply waiting for noontime to employ the effective live eel.

I know this because I have personally witnessed Nubskull retrieve live eels, XRay the little heathens to determine their spinal flexibility, and sort them according to this flexibility at which point he fishes them via lead core or wire line off the back of his Bayliner.

(EDIT - Sorry Tagger, after posting this I remembered you wanted to keep this topic on track - I'll give you an eel the next time I see you! )

[numbskull]

For the record, the only reason I dump on plastic is because it works better than what I make. Makes me insecure. No doubt, however, you could become an excellent plugfisherman without ever swimming wood. Even I wouldn't think of going to the outer cape without it. Bombers (straight and jointed), Rebels, Redfins, Mambo minnows, GS Slammers, SS needle, SS darter, SS little necks (the 2.75oz in particular), Spofford needles, the whole Yozuri line, Rapala Xraps, Pili poppers, CCBC superstrikes, and Cordell BigO's all are great plugs and worth owning. Some of this new Seible (?sp) also looks intriguing.

I think the area wood has an advantage is primarily in larger plugs. Big needles (2.5-3oz), big swimmers, big jointed stuff, big bottles. You also get a much better selection of darters and needles once you include wood. When you get into chasing big fish in bad terrain, heavy tackle becomes important and heavy plugs are an advantage. Finally, there is no plastic plug of which I am aware that can match a Danny's ability to draw large bass off the bottom in deep water/good visability conditions (though pencils and spooks are decent at it).

All of it has it's place and only a dumbass would suggest otherwise (not that that would stop me) so Frankiesurf is right on that. He seems like a good fisherman, and I welcome his input.

[Flaptail]

"Ned Flanders" I hope that doesn't make the Homer Simpson of the same, I was kinda hoping I would be Krusty The Clown.

[Swimmer]

Originally Posted by Frankiesurf

5) surface redfin type- when you are wasting time on schoolies waiting to fish eels after dark - numbskull

If you are just catching schoolies then you might want to move out of that spot. Every plug has its time and place. Just because you can't figure that out you shouldn't bash it. I could say bait is for morons who can't fish plugs but I know it has its spot in the rotation. After reading quite a few of your posts it seems you don't really care what the thread is about, you just want to increase your total post number.

Looks like I will forget about this site again, maybe you will go away. Probably not so most likely I will.



GO YANKEES!!!! F THE PATS


Oh yeah. Went out tonight for a little over two hours. Six bass. 4 were high teens into the twenties and 2 shorts. 3 blues. ALL on a Yo-zuri Mag Darter. Thats a plastic swim bait by the way. Dumbass

You need to take a breath guy and relax. Numbskull and Flap just gave you a tremendous schooling all for free.

[Back Beach]

Originally Posted by numbskull

Of course, there is also this viewpoint held by many authorities

1) pencil popper- when there are no fish to eat your eels and you want to have fun casting
2) danny, pikie, surfster type-when you are out of eels and want to feel good about spending money over the winter
3) spook- when bluefish eat your eels and you want to get even
4) subsurface (atom jr, bomber type)- when you don't have time to buy eels
5) surface redfin type- when you are wasting time on schoolies waiting to fish eels after dark
6) needle- when your eels aren't working, there are no bunker to be had, so you go chase breaking tuna instead

Your most informative post in a long time, perhaps ever. Even an old salty dog can learn new tricks.

Admittedly, the bulk of my large fish have come on plugs this year. I guess I'm just misunderstood, meaning I'll employ whatever works best for the big ones at a given time. Most of the time its elvers though....

[NIB]

Blue white,White blue head pencil during the mullet run..
Yellow for peanuts...
First light,dusk..
It is a awesome big fish plug..