What Do You Consider To Be The Ideal Conditions for Each Plug Listed

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Tagger

anyone throw tin anymore .. I read somewhere before WWII tin ruled the surf ..

They even had a special reel for that, The Penn Squidder

[Frankiesurf]

All right guys point taken. I will put on my neoprenes to thicken my skin if needed.

Great thread without my off topic interruption.

Anyway, back on topic. I love fishing tins as much as bucktails. If I know they are hanging low then I usually throw on a Blue Frog and have at it. If they are not hitting I will throw on a tin. This certainly works out best at dawn and dusk. There are new tins out that are black powder coated for use at night but I have yet to try them. Has anyone else?

I see guys put on a tin and crank it in at the speed of light (same with pencils). STOP THAT! Slow it down. It is slow and low just like a buck. Depending on what kind of tin you are using you don't even have to give it any action. The tins with the keels are my preference. Actually I prefer Charlie Graves "J" series .

Rarely do I use a diamond jig. Unless sand eels are around and the jig has a green tube trailer.

A last reminder. As Ralph Votta (maker of Charlie Graves Tins) told me "Fish 'em to yer feet"

[NIB]

Originally Posted by Frankiesurf

All right guys point taken. I will put on my neoprenes to thicken my skin if needed.

Great thread without my off topic interruption.

. There are new tins out that are black powder coated for use at night but I have yet to try them. Has anyone else?

Pt.Jude Lures a sponser here.makes the Black Knight series.
A collection of black "tins" awesome stuff I did surprisingly well with the 1.5 "Pogee" last yr..
Check em out here
http://pointjudelures.com/tins/index...d=39&Itemid=57

[woodghost]

I agree with tagger! This is a great topic..the name is the only reason i clicked it. I am new to the east coast style of fishing (left new england for the service over twenty years ago) I can cast wesst coast irons with conventionals with the best..Had to relearn spinning reels (i kow it sounds wierd) but now i've bought a VS and Lami wetsuit surf bag and i am learning to fish all the main plugs listed.
The needle (pencil popper?) is quickly becoming my favorite...I find it works best with a push/pull type of wiggle and a slow retrieve. Danny's are trying my patience...way to slow..i'm use to stinging an iron and frying it back as fast as possible (6:1 ration is hyper fast).
Joe from PT. Jude lures seems to make some of the sexiest swimming tins around...I've had moderate succes. The jetty caster bucktails with a 7' pork rind has been doing fairly well low and slow.
anyway this is a great topic for those of us willing to learn from the old salts...i hope to be salty one day! I like the sarcasm also...but if i wanted hear bitchin about fishing i would have stayed married!

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by woodghost

I agree with tagger! This is a great topic..the name is the only reason i clicked it. I am new to the east coast style of fishing (left new england for the service over twenty years ago)

And Thank You for that service

but if i wanted hear bitchin about fishing i would have stayed married!

[woodghost]

Hey thanks johnr! i really had a "blast" in the service so to speak..got to fish every ocean except antarctica..my best was a 7' blue shark in monterey from a battleship...exc. chef made some awesome steaks..that fish really proved the effects of "teamwork"! I've been out fished by more foriegn kids with tin cans and bummed hooks than i can count! I even noodled once in oklahoma! now the stripers have my full attention and cann't seem to break the 30# mark...so i have learned afew things from this post! Lets keep it up!

[NIB]

Originally Posted by woodghost

Hey thanks johnr! i really had a "blast" in the service so to speak..got to fish every ocean except antarctica..my best was a 7' blue shark in monterey from a battleship...exc. chef made some awesome steaks..that fish really proved the effects of "teamwork"! I've been out fished by more foriegn kids with tin cans and bummed hooks than i can count! I even noodled once in oklahoma! now the stripers have my full attention and cann't seem to break the 30# mark...so i have learned afew things from this post! Lets keep it up!

Good Stuff, Maybe you should try Noodlin for a 30..
Thanks for your time protecting are ass from the infidel.

[Dad 818]

woodghost, Thank You very much.

[Tagger]

Originally Posted by woodghost

Hey thanks johnr! i really had a "blast" in the service so to speak..got to fish every ocean except antarctica..my best was a 7' blue shark in monterey from a battleship...exc. chef made some awesome steaks..that fish really proved the effects of "teamwork"! I've been out fished by more foriegn kids with tin cans and bummed hooks than i can count! I even noodled once in oklahoma! now the stripers have my full attention and cann't seem to break the 30# mark...so i have learned afew things from this post! Lets keep it up!

You really have to chat with Angler #1 .. He fished the world off a Navy Destroyer WWII.. He was in charge of recreation, and by the time he got out he had 8 rods stowed on board and had the whole ship fishing .. He got in a jam for bending a small crane trying to haul a big fish on board .. If you two chat, I'd love to listen .. He's a forum leader in mass forum over there .

[woodghost]

Thanks! I never used (or needed..if ihad i would have used) a crane. Used the b'osins skiff to land the shark...The XO told the deck crew to help me land the fish..a couple "well" placed shots from a m9 made the fish more "stable". I was merely a willing particpant i the melee. Tuna off hawai, unknown fish in the black sea, Unknown fish with grenades in the persian gulf with "indeginous" people. I should be thanking all you guys for paying your taxes on time to let my teammates and myself fish some of the best and worst waters of the world! TANK YOU! Back to the topic...is the white water the best place to fish the big metal lip danny?