Palin - Be afraid?

[spence]

Originally Posted by MAC

I'll admit I didn't watch the whole vid. But then again I don't care. Religious views aren't being voted on. And we are voting for the President, not Vice President.

Maybe the MESSIAH will want to be sworn in on the Koran instead of a bible if he wins?? If we bring up HIS religion or parents we are labeled racists for picking on them. But bring a white woman on the ticket and it is a field day...... Everyone has a skeleton or 2 in their closet. Obama is no different I'd bet.

I don't think Obama has ever said that he's the messiah, his detractors did, yet it's clear that Palin believes the war in Iraq is the United States of America following her GOD's word.

-spence

[MAC]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't think Obama has ever said that he's the messiah, his detractors did, yet it's clear that Palin believes the war in Iraq is the United States of America following her GOD's word.

-spence

Putting religion aside. Are you telling me you are for socialism ? Because that is what Obama wants to bring.

[Bronko]

My god moonbats are scary. You really don't want to compare religious views and associations between VP candidate Palin and Presiential candidate Barak Hussein Obama Reverend Wright do you?

I'll tell you what. At a minimum McCain has the left and the pajama-hadeen bloggers scrambling.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by Bronko

My god moonbats are scary. You really don't want to compare religious views and associations between VP candidate Palin and Presiential candidate Barak Hussein Obama Reverend Wright do you?

Hello, its September, Wright is long gone.

I'll tell you what. At a minimum McCain has the left and the pajama-hadeen bloggers scrambling.

NVA wore pajamas and look at what they did to the US military.

Gotta respect the pajamas.

[Slipknot]

Mac, time to get a few of these

http://www.goptrunk.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=21

[MAC]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

Mac, time to get a few of these

http://www.goptrunk.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=21

good idea. And maybe a couple of these http://www.democraticstuff.com/Obama...-p/ys23239.htm

That way when Obama loses ya can put one on the lawn and maybe the house won't get ransacked

[spence]

Funny, I bring up something I saw about Palin, and Palin alone...

And you can't bring yourselves to deal with the issue.

John McCain (the real John McCain) once remarked about evangelical conservatives as "agents of intolerance" and yet he's picked one to be his number two...

-spence

[EarnedStripes44]

Originally Posted by MAC

Putting religion aside. Are you telling me you are for socialism ? Because that is what Obama wants to bring.

I want to answer this question NO, but I first I need you to define socialism for me if you would please. Are we talking socialism in all its facets or are we talking the VA Hospital system, social security or welfare?

[MAC]

Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44

I want to answer this question NO, but I first I need you to define socialism for me if you would please. Are we talking socialism in all its facets or are we talking the VA Hospital system, social security or welfare?

http://www.conservapedia.com/Socialism

This is the extreme. But right up about where Obama wants US. I feel he is a believer in the "people of the world crap". And wants US to fall into step with the UN on everything. But to do so would have to gut some of the things in our Constitution.

[EarnedStripes44]

Originally Posted by MAC

http://www.conservapedia.com/Socialism

This is the extreme. But right up about where Obama wants US. I feel he is a believer in the "people of the world crap". And wants US to fall into step with the UN on everything. But to do so would have to gut some of the things in our Constitution.

Mac, your right. The Obama administration would have to gut the constitution. However, the constitution cannot be gutted, at least that is not how it was intended under the compromises of our founding fathers. Unfortunately, the application of the constitutional principle of due process has been bled a bit. Hopefully, this will be reconciled, but if not, then we should indeed worry about the powers of the government for we will all be hemophiliacs, cut off from the blood transfusions of disent. A powerful all knowing- no holds barred centralized authority is a prerequisite of socialism on one end of the spectrum and royalism on the other.

Now all that aside (about the constitutional bloodletting of the current administration) I would not worry to much about the socialism predictions underscoring the mantra of Obama opponents. Federalism, as mandated by constitution, places exceptional limitations on any sweeping changes in the direction of socialism/communism in America. Socialism has always been fringe ideology on the political spectrum and even FDR faced considerable opposition to his New Deal Policies which at the time were viewed not as economic jumpstarters but rank socialist expansionism by some on the Supreme Court. With 80,000 governments of varying size and scope in this country coupled with a majority stacked textualist supreme court bench, the likelihood of socialism in it extremes acquiring any serious foothold is next to nothing.

I do think social programs and incentives for reinvigorating math, science and the engineering disciplines are on the horizon, as well as curbing some of this free trade undercutting american made products. This type of government expansion, aimed at strengthening education and the economy are not all that distasteful in my opinion, but again this all in theory.

For reality far more complicated, unpredicatable and variable than what the books & experts say...

[EarnedStripes44]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't think Obama has ever said that he's the messiah, his detractors did...

-spence

The Karl Rove school of politics 2008 edition. Opponents press ideas of the "messiah Obama...descending from the heavens" professing to be savior of the american people and credit this to his campaign. This is an attempt to drive a wedge right in between evangelicals and widespread support for Obama. Now my recollection of the bible is a bit hazy but I vaguely recall that upon his arrival it will be the anti-christ who will claim to be christ. This undermines Obama's widespread appeal in the mind of the devout christian voter.

This is a bit of a stretch but a similar trangression in Islam would be the depiction/illustration of god in human form, its blasphemy. Obama fixtured amongst the likes of the holy is a trangression against the faith of practicing christians & evangelicals eventhough it is Sean Hannity who has christened him "the annointed one"

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44

Now my recollection of the bible is a bit hazy but I vaguely recall that upon his arrival it will be the anti-christ who will claim to be christ.

That would be 'dubya'