Would a company make you

[Swimmer]

Its like the guy who does well with a Jiffy Lube franchise who decides to run for CEO at his first stockholders meeting.

[justplugit]

A silver tongue yes, but the Emperor has no clothes.

[Nebe]

The thing is this- the president is only the talking head of the party- his cabinet and advisors are telling him what to say and do..

Do you honestly think that McCain will guide this country all by himself? Do you think that Bush made all of those bad decisions in the past 8 years?

This country needs a figure head that will inspire the masses to rise above.

[Swimmer]

[quote=Nebe;623926]
Do you honestly think that McCain will guide this country all by himself? Do you think that Bush made all of those bad decisions in the past 8 years?

No and no, but the alternative is too much of a risk for me.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Nebe

The thing is this- the president is only the talking head of the party- his cabinet and advisors are telling him what to say and do..

Do you honestly think that McCain will guide this country all by himself? Do you think that Bush made all of those bad decisions in the past 8 years?

This country needs a figure head that will inspire the masses to rise above.

obama will inspire the masses to sit back and do nothing. He wants to award the underachievers.

I bust my ass and will have to wait in line for health care for my kids while someone who dropped out of school is in front of me? Hell no

[Backbeach Jake]

Geeze, just look at your TV and get a load of what a pack of experienced politicans can do!

[EarnedStripes44]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

I bust my ass and will have to wait in line for health care for my kids while someone who dropped out of school is in front of me? Hell no

Don't you have to wait in line unless your VIP anyway.

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

obama will inspire the masses to sit back and do nothing. He wants to award the underachievers.

I bust my ass and will have to wait in line for health care for my kids while someone who dropped out of school is in front of me? Hell no

Nice rationalization

Look at what your healthcare costs have done in the past 5 years alone, the current trajectory simply isn't sustainable.

I'm not for a single payer system, but there's enough money flowing to better handle situations that are s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g up a lot of cost. For instance an investment into preventative care could reap a net gain downstream by reducing more costly treatments for advanced conditions.

I don't understand this visceral reaction to anything that alludes to a socialistic approach to problem solving.

Wealth redistribution is evil, though we do already have a progressive tax system that pretty much created the middle class.

Regulation is evil, though less regulation does typically lead to more pollution and corporate corruption.

Socializing health care is evil, though my private insurance is climbing some 30% a year.

Free markets are best, and perform better when propped up by government handouts!

If we eliminate 1/2 of our options before we even begin, how many innovative solutions might be overlooked?

-spence

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by spence

Look at what your healthcare costs have done in the past 5 years alone, the current trajectory simply isn't sustainable.

I'm not for a single payer system, but there's enough money flowing to better handle situations that are s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g up a lot of cost. For instance an investment into preventative care could reap a net gain downstream by reducing more costly treatments for advanced conditions.

-spence

Spence, you're right on about preventative medicine, but it's not going to solve the healthcare crisis alone.

The major reason healthcare costs have increased as much as they have is malpractice insurance costs for doctors. The best and brightest doctors who are trained in the U.S. aren't going to work in hospitals now. They either go into research, where the liklihood of malpractice suits is minimal or they go into group practice. We're left with doctors trained at the Ghana Community Medical College or Haiti School of Hair Design, Plumbing and Medicine.

Because the doctors are being charged outrageous malpractice insurance costs, they are passing the costs along to the health care insurers like BCBS, etc... The health insurance companies need to keep their margins, so they have to raise costs. Who ends up paying? Those of us who have health insurance and the companies we work for who are paying the bulk of our medical insurance.

Now, none of this is any comfort to the uninsured out there, but it explains a little bit of why health care in this country is so out of whack.

[EarnedStripes44]

[QUOTE=fishbones;624767]We're left with doctors trained at the Ghana Community Medical College or Haiti School of Hair Design, Plumbing and Medicine.
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Interesting choice of words...

Don't let the influx of haitians in Brockton rub your rhubarb to hard now.

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by Nebe

The thing is this- the president is only the talking head of the party- his cabinet and advisors are telling him what to say and do..

Do you honestly think that McCain will guide this country all by himself? Do you think that Bush made all of those bad decisions in the past 8 years?

This country needs a figure head that will inspire the masses to rise above.

If one finds (or seeks) inspiration from the likes of BHO they are sadly lacking at least one critical component to start with.

Who inspired Barry?

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

If one finds (or seeks) inspiration from the likes of BHO they are sadly lacking at least one critical component to start with.

Who inspired Barry?

Oh, god...here you go again

-spence