Ouch

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

What happened to "In Bill we trust" ?

Without Brady, he's the guy who coached the Cleveland Browns

I hope you folks appreciated all you had with him the last 7 seasons or so. From the first time I saw him throw a pass in a pre-season game I took my son to, I knew he was going to be something special. I remember telling my sister that "the kid" threw a much better ball than Bledsoe ever did, even on his best day.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Mike P

I hope you folks appreciated all you had with him the last 7 seasons or so.

Why are you using "Past Tense"?

[Slipknot]

Ya, Brady and Belichick aren't done yet
it ain't over yet

I believe Randy will still be here next season when Brady is back, and by then we will get some DB's and maybe get younger legs scattered around the team.

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Why are you using "Past Tense"?

Because while offense wins games, defense wins championships. You'll always be a contender with Brady, but without a defense, you'll be the Colts until they added a defense.

That D has to be totally re-vamped. It was obvious that they ran out of gas down the stretch last year, starting with the Philly game, but Brady and the offense could always outscore the other guys, right up until the Super Bowl. Mayo's a good start, but he's one guy. Bruschi, Vrabel, Thomas, Harrison--all getting long in the tooth, all over 30. Bruschi and Harrison are 35. LB and safety are speed positions--closing speed for an ILB is crucial, especially in a 3-4 set, and safeties still need to cover, and it's obvious that Rodney has lost more than a step. Seymour isn't exactly a spring chicken, either. He's only 29 but he's played a lot of games. Ends take a lot more pounding in a 3-4 defense, where they often get double blocked, than they do in a 4-3.

Over on the offensive side--Faulk and Morris are both over 30, and that's old for a running back. And Maroney seems to be unusually injury-prone.

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by Strike_King

The play calling on that first and goal series Sunday nite was abysmal. Yeah,let's line up Faulk and Morris in the back field.They might think it's not a run

Even Madden remarked on it--whenever they line up Morris and Faulk in the I-formation, it's a run, not play-action

I'm wondering if that was what Belichick and McDaniels were jawing about at halftime?