Westfield Gun Accident??!!!

[whiplash]

Thoughts and prayers for the family . BUT what IDIOT gave an 8 yr old and uzi? Everybody complains about the strict gun laws (that only impact legal gun owners,not the bad guys) but yet give an uzi to an 8 yr old. Talk about handing over our rights. The anti gun folks will be on this like stink on old pogies. All the reports say they had tons of trained folks supervising this event . How many had any brains is my question. I've had guns all my life and both my sons were trained but with .22 single shot not a frigin uzi. I hope someone is hung out to dry.

[UserRemoved1]

My feelings exactly.VERY sad.

[ quote=whiplash;632459]Thoughts and prayers for the family . BUT what IDIOT gave an 8 yr old and uzi? Everybody complains about the strict gun laws (that only impact legal gun owners,not the bad guys) but yet give an uzi to an 8 yr old. Talk about handing over our rights. The anti gun folks will be on this like stink on old pogies. All the reports say they had tons of trained folks supervising this event . How many had any brains is my question. I've had guns all my life and both my sons were trained but with .22 single shot not a frigin uzi. I hope someone is hung out to dry.[/quote]

[Raven]

a weapon with that much fire power...if allowed to fired by an eight year old kid should have be (secured) and bolted into a stationary device where recoil could not even be a factor.....

i remember firing a twenty two rifle up in Maine at age ten and the safety precautions were HUGE.

that's a real shame this happened in what appeared to be a controlled environment.

[JH Beers]

Originally Posted by Raven

a weapon with that much fire power...if allowed to fired by an eight year old kid should have be (secured) and bolted into a stationary device where recoil could not even be a factor.....

i remember firing a twenty two rifle up in Maine at age ten and the safety precautions were HUGE.

that's a real shame this happened in what appeared to be a controlled environment.

Not an appropriate place to mention this, but I'd call it the "taser" effect more than anything...

Kid's shocked, can't let go of trigger, etc.

You have to wonder though, cyclic rate of 600/min.

32 round clip max, probably 16rd for a kid of that age (assuming that they weren't being absolutely moronic, which apparently they were, but I'll be generous in their grief).

10rds/second.

So, in 3.2 or 1.6 seconds with adult supervision AND A STOCK, the weapon managed to go from pointed forward to pointed backward?

Something about this story doesn't add up.

For what it's worth, though, my grandpa let me shoot one of his friend's 10" barrel .454's when I was 12. With two adults holding down my arms my arms kicked up two feet from benchrest.

I could go through 30rds on his 9mm Beretta 92 as fast as I could pull the trigger, and I probably never got further than 1ft above starting point at the same age.

[fishpoopoo]

well, it was bound to happen. second fatality in the history of organized machine gun shoots (first one was at knob creek several years ago ... home made mini gun mount failed and allowed the moving parts to strike the owner's daughter in the head).

plenty of kids have handled full-auto firearms with no problems before, but in this case i wouldn't be surprised if the kid was allowed to do a full 32 round mag dump when he should have been limited to bursts.

when you shoot a full auto subgun for the first time, you're going to experience muzzle climb. you're supposed to control it by gradually tightening up your stance and grip, and keeping your bursts short.

sounds like the poor kid lost control of the weapon and allowed the muzzle of the Uzi SMG (ordinarly a very controllable weapon in the hands of an adult) to point upward at his head.

whenever i introduce first timers to a subgun, i always limit the number of rounds in the first mag to a maxmium of six, until they get a feel for how the weapon handles. ESPECIALLY on an open-bolt subgun like an Uzi.