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10-29-2008, 09:39 AM
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Location: Easton, MA
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Originally Posted by Nebe
Im in RI, but I would imagine that what will happen is that Mass property taxes will triple and you will see all sorts of new fees and licensing to squeeze money from somewhere else.
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They can't raise property taxes without a vote, so that would never happen. I still can't figure out why the property taxes in RI are so high. You're right about the fees for drivers licenses, fishing and hunting licenses, etc..... They'll just take the money from a different pocket on the resident's pair of pants.
I agree with Jimmy about sending a message though. Even if the votes are there, the state can still keep the income tax in effect. There's a loophole in the way the proposal is written. But, if enough people vote to repeal the tax, it sends a message that we're fed up of our hard earned money going to redecorating politicians offices, etc... |
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10-29-2008, 09:56 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
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Originally Posted by fishbones
They can't raise property taxes without a vote, so that would never happen.
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But they sure as hell can re-assess the crap out of you... 
They'll get their money from somewhere. |
"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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10-29-2008, 10:00 AM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
But they sure as hell can re-assess the crap out of you... |
that would benefit most in this market |
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10-29-2008, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
that would benefit most in this market
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Some times it takes me a minute...i now realize where you are going with this....Carry On |
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10-29-2008, 10:36 AM
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DDG-51
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Property Tax,
Income Tax,
Exise Tax,
Sales Tax,
luxury tax,
when does it F'n end.
I'd love the message to be sent, but if it does pass, I'll bet the legislature will overturn it.
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10-29-2008, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
But they sure as hell can re-assess the crap out of you...
They'll get their money from somewhere. |
Assessments must be done at fair market value based on property sales. With the RE market where it is, the towns wouldn't be able to do much to increase the assessed value of homes. Also, there would need to be a Proposition 2 1/2 override for towns to increase assessments. See if that would get passed by voters. |
Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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10-29-2008, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by fishbones
Assessments must be done at fair market value based on property sales. With the RE market where it is, the towns wouldn't be able to do much to increase the assessed value of homes. Also, there would need to be a Proposition 2 1/2 override for towns to increase assessments. See if that would get passed by voters.
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I thought Assessments could be done on an annual basis...the prop 2 1/2 are done for special circumstances. I could be wrong though....Its not unheard of  |
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10-29-2008, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
I thought Assessments could be done on an annual basis...the prop 2 1/2 are done for special circumstances. I could be wrong though....Its not unheard of |
Assessments are done anually in many towns, but still can't be increased if property values go down. The language is pretty clear about it being based on RE values. If your property was assessed and you thought it was too high, you can fight it.
Prop 2 1/2 is for special circumstances such as new schools, renovation town bulidings, fixing bridges, etc... But all Prop 2 1/2 proposals have to go to vote before the residents.
Basically, citizens are in control of what they pay in taxes. The rub in it all is that, like you said earlier, the town will get it's money in the end. They'll raise prices for dog licenses, charge more for town athletics, give out more parking tickets and on and on. But, if citizens speak out loudly enough, we can limit what they try to take from us. |
Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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10-29-2008, 10:40 AM
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Permanently Disconnected
Join Date: Nov 2002
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not me they can't, they assess my house at full price of what we paid for it because they base everything in my town on assessed value or what it last sold for. I'd like to see them tell me my house is worth more than I paid 4 years ago right now...or even maybe what we paid for it 4 years ago. Uxbridge home values have stayed well above the state averages and I'm told the houses are very much in demand. 
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
But they sure as hell can re-assess the crap out of you...
They'll get their money from somewhere. |
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