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Old 10-30-2008, 09:11 PM   #10
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I find this effort to get extra pay offensive. The police now get extra pay for attending " law classes" at a MA university and now they want us to pay them more because they use a computer. Where the hell is the logic? The computer is just as important a tool as their cruiser

Maybe they are trying to make up lost dollars earned drinking coffee and gabbing with the construction workers doing details.
Persons employed in the private sector get paid more based on thier attaining higher education why shouldn't someone who works for the tax dollar. A person who has a bachelors degree should get paid more than someone who doesn't regardless of where he/she is employed. Many of the people I work with can't or wont go to school, becausse it is too much expense on the family. Some have Associate degrees, some have bachelors degrees, and some have a masters degree with four courses beyond the master's degree, for which whose school loan of $25,000.00 was just paid off after 15 GD years. As I said though only about half of my department has any college under the belt. If you take on more responsibilty in the workplace you have a right to ask for and receive more compensation if the people that negotiate with you agree. Computors are an everyday skill true, but if are unions didn't seek out more compensation for us as a group we would still be earning $5.00 an hour to do cleanup work that no one else has the you know what to do. Yes we should do what is commonly perceived as everyday chores the same as everyone else without getting anything in return. Computors themselves only make our job easier in the end. And to that end using that logic we could get pay deducted. Just kidding. I have never met Hooper but I think we would get along just fine.
Education in police departments has all but eradicated brutality complaints. And that has everything to do with higher education taking place in a diverse learning atmosphere on college campuses. I don't know of anyone who has worked toward that end, a college degree, and was willing to give it up just to lose everything because they couldn't keep thier hands to themselves. Thier was whole office buildings of attorneys in Boston and elsewhere which were living off of the insurance companies that cover municipalites and the police departments.

One more thing, if you drive by a detail where the officer is staring in the hole call the police department in that town. It isn't right I agree. Complain. But you have to remember, an officers primary responsibilty at a detail is to keep you away from the equipment, not the other way around. Also when you drive be a detail on rte. 3 or the pike and the trooper is sitting in his car call the barracks and complain, because they are screwing it up for everyone, but they made a deal with ........, err I mean Patrick and they threw local officers to the wolves.

Don't just beef about it here, go to your town meetings, particpate, vote, get on town boards, and by all means call, complain we hear it all day, we are used to it.

Or take the civil service exam and get "on the job", you know like the old navy add says, see the world.

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