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11-03-2008, 11:05 AM
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Lincoln was considered a radical liberal at the time and not too popular in what we now call the red states.
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11-03-2008, 12:00 PM
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Registered Grandpa
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Joe, i can see how he would be called a radical liberal because of his stance at the time on the slave issue, but not on his stance on the other issues listed in his creed.
If the creed is radical liberal, i'm moving to the Left coast.  |
" Choose Life "
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11-03-2008, 12:23 PM
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It reads better than the reality and the crushing poverty of the time. Pre-middle class, pre-minimum wage, pre-child labor laws. People at that time believed that there was an inverse relationship with respect to wealth between workers and employers. One person has to enslave another, or their own prosperity would falter - some people still believe it.
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11-03-2008, 01:54 PM
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iffin' that's the liberal creed.......i'm a liberal!.....and so are a lot of others who don't it...yet.
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11-03-2008, 05:25 PM
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Registered Grandpa
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Thanks for the history lesson guys. Ya keep me learnin. 
Gotta say though, liberal, moderate or conservative, i'll support anyone who runs on his creed as their platform any day.
Glad when tomrrow is over, though i'll miss this modern day jousting pit forum.
Hope some of you guys got your tickets early for the Chicago million man Obama party.  |
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11-03-2008, 05:35 PM
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If he loses there will be mass violence. Count on it.
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The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. ~John Buchan
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11-03-2008, 06:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bronko
If he loses there will be mass violence. Count on it.
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Certainly the million disappointed party goers. |
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11-03-2008, 09:47 PM
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Lincoln wasn't the benevolent emancipator we honor him as today. His first and foremost goal was to preserve the Union, and one of his famous quotes went something like, "if I could preserve the Union without freeing a single slave, I would". The Emancipation Proclamation was issued more to punish the Confederacy than help the slaves.
Lincoln was also a bigot if not an outright racist privately. His hope was that most of the slaves would return to Africa after the war. He had very mixed feelings on whether blacks could ever assimilate into society, and together with General McClelland, was vehemently opposed to using black troops in combat. His opinion of their fighting attributes was not very high, to say the least.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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11-03-2008, 10:13 PM
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abe also slept with men.
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11-04-2008, 06:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bronko
If he loses there will be mass violence. Count on it.
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A workmate of mine said this very same thing yesterday, it was inbetween several other comments I found a bit racist.
-spence |
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11-04-2008, 07:50 AM
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11-04-2008, 08:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
A workmate of mine said this very same thing yesterday, it was inbetween several other comments I found a bit racist.
-spence
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That's unfortunate. Did you let him know the other comments hurt your feelings? |
The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. ~John Buchan
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11-04-2008, 07:51 AM
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lobster = striper bait
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bronko
If he loses there will be mass violence. Count on it.
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Wanna bet on it? |
Ski Quicks Hole
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11-04-2008, 08:02 AM
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that is a true prediction
just look at these Jokers that were saying "and this is for Obama" when they came across McCaine signs...
on the guys lawn....
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