Beat downs of old Presidents - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

BigFish · 11-05-2008, 06:56 AM

Look at the mess Obama is inheriting!! I do not envy him!

In defense of Bush....look at what he had to deal with!! 911!!! Boy I remember everyone thought he was the greatest thing since sliced bread when that happened! You blame Bush for what??? Lets hear what he did wrong???

likwid · 11-05-2008, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

In defense of Bush....look at what he had to deal with!! 911!!! Boy I remember everyone thought he was the greatest thing since sliced bread when that happened! You blame Bush for what??? Lets hear what he did wrong???

He went on vacation.
Awesome way to deal.

Raven · 11-05-2008, 08:23 AM

it's not all about political parties.... really

it's about everyone wanting to make a friggan JOKE
out of everything....

Saturday night live .... and the tonight show appearences, david letterman...the daily show in particular... the cobert report

now it's the U-tube phenomenon ... photoshopping
everything to death....the computer age - of which i am guilty too... of course...

there's millions of comedians all making a mockery
of the presidency continuously

which makes it difficult
to do a JOB thats not EASY

BigFish · 11-05-2008, 08:29 AM

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He went on vacation.
Awesome way to deal.

He was not on vacation when 911 happened and did not go on vacation during the crisis.....you are mis-informed.

The Dad Fisherman · 11-05-2008, 08:43 AM

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You blame Bush for what??? Lets hear what he did wrong???

This is an earlier rant as to why I can't stand the man.

I had no problem with Reagan I was in the military from 82-89 so I was all for the guy. he did some great things to help take down the wall.

Didn't have a problem with Bush Sr.....very smart man, you don't get to be the head of the CIA by being a Dummy.

I had no problem with Clinton....Economy was good, I was making good money and his only issue that a lot of people had was a hummer and the fact he used an intern as a humidor.

But "W"...

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George Bush is an Embarassment to this Country....period! I don't blame him for everything. I know full well that pretty much all politicians are full of chit and they all suck. The problem isn't the republicans and it isn't the democrats....its ALL of them. And I get pissed when everytime I say something about that president (and I use the term loosely) of ours I get labeled a Dem Liberal Whack-job. Believe it or not I actually hold a lot of conservative views.

I do blame him for what the rest of the world thinks about us....every time he opens his mouth its another Embarassing Moment. There's something to be said for looking Informed and Intelligent when you are the face of our country.

When I was in the Service and went overseas in Europe when people found out we were american they loved us, bought us drinks, pulled up a stool to talk to us, hell in a couple of countries they took us into there homes.....in the past 8 years this idiot we have running the country has turned us into laughing stocks for the rest of the world.........and it disgusts me. We have lost our Respect in the world because of him.

Every time I see the videos of him flipping off the camera with that goofy laugh, his inabilty to open a door and then following it up with his best Snagglepuss routine , or his inane dancing that he feels is his "Go To" move to make people laugh, I cringe. You are the leader of the most powerful country in the world...ACT IT!!

As far as I'm concerned he doesn't deserve the 25% rating that he got and I'm counting the days until he is done. And I hope no college or univerisity wastes any of their money getting him to speak there........he will just, once again, do something to embarrass us.

BigFish · 11-05-2008, 08:45 AM

I agree with everything you say Kevin...all of it.....but I am still looking for performance evaluation....what did he himself do wrong?? He does not act alone!!

Bishop169 · 11-05-2008, 12:43 PM

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You blame Bush for what??? Lets hear what he did wrong???

Hate to chime in but to aid to the we hate bush speech

He gave wicked tax breaks to big companies mainly oil companies..

He ignored the UN and pushed the false idea that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction that basically created this war we will be fighting for another 10-15 years and how many of our finest will be buried for it.

he encouraged foreign out sourcing and stated that foreign out sourcing was good for American economy. I still wonder how promoting the lose of 100k American jobs to overseas markets is good for our economy

This is just a few of the large issues in my eyes I could keep going if you like

BigFish · 11-05-2008, 01:34 PM

Again Bishop you also are misinformed. The NAFTA trade agreement prodded the outsourcing and that was before Bush! This war was gonna happen.....biggest problem is we have been there too long and I see no need for that! As for him pushing to go in to Iraq....he went based on intelligence that was bad to say the least. Again.....Presidents do not act alone.....congress voted to go into Iraq and Bush had full backing both ethically and financially!

Bishop169 · 11-05-2008, 02:07 PM

I beg to differ

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/feb.../na-bushecon10

here is an artical of back on 04 when bush pushed the out sourcing of american jobs. You re right he didn't start it but he did encourage it

here are two notable quoetes remember from 04

Outsourcing is just a new way of doing international trade,” said N. Gregory Mankiw, chairman of Bush’s Council of Economic Advisors, which prepared the report. “More things are tradable than were tradable in the past. And that’s a good thing.”

Bush said the economy “is strong and getting stronger,” thanks in part to his tax cuts and other economic programs. He said the nation had survived a stock market meltdown, recession, terrorist attacks, corporate scandals and war in Afghanistan and Iraq, and was finally beginning to enjoy “a mounting prosperity that will reach every corner of America.”

I dont believe bush fully understood what he was doing and your right he didn't act alone but Bush's biggest flaw was he was short sighted and to easliy lead by others

just my opinion bush wasn't a president he was a puppet...

The Dad Fisherman · 11-05-2008, 02:07 PM

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congress voted to go into Iraq and Bush had full backing both ethically and financially!

Congress did not vote to go into Iraq....they voted to give President Bush the Authority to do so If He Deemed That It Was Necessary....Big Difference.

One has congress saying "Yeehaw lets go" and the other says 'George, if you think we need to you can".....in which George said "Yeehaw Lets Go"

I also question if he had full backing ethically.....Financially, hell yeah....but Ethically?

BigFish · 11-05-2008, 02:17 PM

I agree Bishop but aren't they all puppets?? Figureheads??

Flaptail · 11-05-2008, 02:18 PM

How f()cked up would this country have to be before some of you Bush babies realized how bad a president he really was?

He was actually not that smart, lowest IQ of any president since testing began with Roosevelt.

And really now, we all know #^&#^&#^&#^& Cheney was reall in charge and he was about as nice a person as say maybe... hmmm. Hitler!

Take a reality check. Biggest deficet, highest unemployment, wall street let run rampant with greed, The oil comapnies ahd him in thier back pocket, after all he is an oilman!

Blind as bats some of you.