Phase II

[MAC]

They are just looking to play the blame game.

[Raven]

not of the candidates

but the war between the fed law and state law
trumping each other back and forth is a JOKE

[spence]

Originally Posted by MAC

They are just looking to play the blame game.

I actually thought Biden's remarks were extremely rational and articulate. A good percentage of the country believes the Bush Administration has very possibly violated the law.

How can we ever learn from past actions if they are not held to account?

-spence

[Nebe]

Thank you spence.

[BigFish]

It will never happen. Emphasis on "never".

[MAC]

Originally Posted by spence

I actually thought Biden's remarks were extremely rational and articulate. A good percentage of the country believes the Bush Administration has very possibly violated the law.

How can we ever learn from past actions if they are not held to account?

-spence

My thoughts are that this is going to cost millions of dollars and still come up with nothing. How about they focus on the economy.

Good thing I am overweight. I'll be living off my fat reserves. Job prospects are terrible right now. Most prospective jobs (in my trade) are talking SPRINGTIME. No one wants to start new projects as I believe they are very concerned about the next 4 to 6 months.

I've been out of work now for 5 weeks and its not looking to get any better until April or so. The last time things got bad like this (1989) I moved out of state. Can't do that now though as I have different responsibilities.


Oh and just for the record even if McCain had won, things wouldn't be any different. Obama is going to have his hands full. Lets just hope he can do something.


And just for the record. I'm not a republican. There is a (U) after my name on the paper they checked before I voted. I didn't vote for McCain. Or for Obama for that matter.

[Nebe]

I love this country.. A place where a president gets dragged into impeachment hearings because of a stupid affair, but when a whole administration cheats, steals, and sacrifices thousands of lives based on a series of complex lies and bent facts.. its brushed aside because there are too many problems. Problems mind you, that were either caused or ignored by the same party...

[Raven]

absolutely only thing
that i agreed with the french about
was laughing at the Americans response
to the lewinsky act in the oval office.

and by the way.... that wasn't sex.

[BigFish]

He acted on intelligence supplied to him. Bad intelligence yes but intelligence none the less. He was acting on our best interest in terms of security in light of what happened on 911 I feel he was justified and I am betting at the time...most of you did too! Did it go bad? Yes? There is no pleasing everyone....if he did nothing people would piss and moan......so how can you win??? Nothing will ever come of it.....word!

[MAC]

Originally Posted by BigFish

He acted on intelligence supplied to him. Bad intelligence yes but intelligence none the less. He was acting on our best interest in terms of security in light of what happened on 911 I feel he was justified and I am betting at the time...most of you did too! Did it go bad? Yes? There is no pleasing everyone....if he did nothing people would piss and moan......so how can you win??? Nothing will ever come of it.....word!

agreed

[Nebe]

hold on bigfish... you said 'he'. Oh no.. this will go way beyond 'he'.

It has been proven that intellegence was cherry picked and contrary intellegence was ignored. The people who were involved with that is who I think will pay. 'He' i believe is untouchable... simply because they pushed the war in such a slick way...

[BigFish]

Call it what you want Eben......guys like you throw things like..."It was proven" around and its based on here say and gossip sprinkled with half heard information. You don't like how it went so you want to scape goat Bush! You are entitled to your opinion on Bush but you are kidding yourself if you think there will A) Be an investigation and B) Anything will ever come of it! As others have said why spend another billion dollars on a witch hunt?! There are more important irons in the fire!

I remember the "climate" around here when we went into Iraq and most people were on board......peoples memories are darn short and very selective.

[EarnedStripes44]

Originally Posted by BigFish

He acted on intelligence supplied to him. Bad intelligence yes but intelligence none the less. He was acting on our best interest in terms of security in light of what happened on 911 I feel he was justified and I am betting at the time...most of you did too! Did it go bad? Yes? There is no pleasing everyone....if he did nothing people would piss and moan......so how can you win??? Nothing will ever come of it.....word!

what about torturing people. Is that o.k.? We didnt torture (as policy) german POWs. We let them play soccer in Alabama fields.

[BigFish]

Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44

what about torturing people. Is that o.k.? We didnt torture (as policy) german POWs. We let them play soccer in Alabama fields.

Did I say that was ok??