And, Gibbs plugs S**k!!

[SeaWolf]

Mike P - No, I didn't take it personally. I just wanted to do the same thing as you were doing, making a point about the plugs, how I'm not affliated w/ any manufacturer, and how we don't know each other (maybe in time...).

I picked up a couple GS1s today and didn't see any differences. They didn't have any '2s' or '3s', so I couldn't compare them. I'll have to look next time I'm at a surf store. I don't have any new Gibbs Plugs yet, still on the old ones - thankfully.

I think the new Darters being 'angled' like that on top just say the type of production they are making right now, l-a-z-y and quick. I have yet to try a new Darter, but a couple of my friends have tried them and don't like them. I'll have to "borrow" one and maybe even fool w/ the head. I've only had maybe one out of every 10 Darters not swim and one of every 50 just perfect in any condition. You really need to study the heads, drilling, angles, etc., when you buy any plug. I noticed a couple Darters today that were slightly off center in their head screw.

This now makes 2 lure manufacturers from the old school that are either gone or just not the same anymore. The other is Atom. Yes, they are still around, but they are not the same plug. I 'like' their attempt to make a Reverse again, but not have holes on the bottom for loading and swimming. Plus, they weren't in amber. I miss the old Atoms...Bob Pond was great! Am I missing something here??? Sure they are other and more wooden lure manufacturers nowadays, but only a couple produce consistent plugs.

I wish Gibbs made the old 3oz Danny Swimmer the same as they used to w/ the bigger and wider lip at the end. Again, not the same plug. Remember those Mike?

I agree w/ your comment on putting your own hooks on the plug. Sure, go ahead and make them for the average fisherman that doesn't have 14 boxes of hooks like me, but let me have that option. I much rather put them on and blame myself or the hook manufacturer if they break, than the lure manufacturer. If that option is available in a plug, I'm doing it. Mike, or anyone else, have you tried the VMC trebels yet? Are they available in open eye trebles?