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Grumpy Old Pharts Board Gerritol, Ex-Lax, Immodium, Bad Breath - all requirements for the Grumpy Board |
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12-05-2008, 05:23 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Other kids had already shot it....thats why there are 4 counts of furnishing a machine gun to a minor. they know of at least 3 other kids that shot it.
Like I said....A show sponsored by the sheriff, run by supposed "Certified" instructors, at a location that is a licensed gun club and supposed to be a safe place to shoot. I think he was being responsible....in hind sight, of course it looks irresponsible, but up to the moment of the tragedy he felt there was nothing wrong.
Do you really think the father deserves to be prosecuted and go to prison?
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No certainly not. He has suffered a great loss and will have to deal with it for the rest of his life. Terrible thing. However I think there was enough blame to go around....no one individual will see any jail time here. Fines maybe but no guilt. It was an unfortunate accident.
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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12-05-2008, 05:23 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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I may have a little stubborn streak in me....maybe! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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12-06-2008, 09:55 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 17,125
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
It was an unfortunate accident.
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it's a shame, it could have been prevented easily
Am I missing something here? Firing the fully auto machine guns is illegal by a minor? is that a law that was broken?
How can they have a gun show or whatever this was and allow the law to be broken? bad move
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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12-06-2008, 11:15 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
Posts: 18,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
Am I missing something here? Firing the fully auto machine guns is illegal by a minor? is that a law that was broken?
How can they have a gun show or whatever this was and allow the law to be broken? bad move
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Thats what 2 of the guys are being charged with, furnishing a machine gun to a minor, so I assume it is a law that they broke. I'd like to think they didn't make it up...though this is mass.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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12-06-2008, 09:43 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
Posts: 6,234
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Machinegun has nothing to do with the law.
I believe the law states minor in possesion of a gun needs to be under the direct supervision of a duly liscensed adult.
They are probably being charged with allowing the 15yo (non liscensed , non adult) supervise the 8yo
The whole thing stinks.
I will say this, I was shooting skeet, my fathers .45, and .357mag by the time I was 9 or 10, supervised by my father at all times.
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Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
Spot NAZI
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12-06-2008, 09:53 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
Posts: 6,234
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I found this, but some of it seems to be contradictory
Chapter 140: Section 130. Sale or furnishing weapons or ammunition to aliens or minors; penalty; exceptions
Section 130. Whoever sells or furnishes a rifle, shotgun or ammunition to any alien eighteen years of age or older who does not hold a permit card issued to him under section one hundred and thirty-one H or, except as provided in this section or section one hundred and thirty-one E, whoever sells or furnishes any alien or any person under eighteen years of age a rifle, shotgun, machine gun or ammunition, or whoever sells or furnishes to any person under 21 years of age a firearm or large capacity rifle or shotgun or ammunition therefor shall have his license to sell firearms, rifles, shotguns, machine guns and or ammunition revoked and shall not be entitled to apply for such license for ten years from the date of such revocation and shall be punished by a fine of not less than $1,000 nor more than $10,000, or by imprisonment in a state prison for not more than ten years or by imprisonment in a house of correction for not more than two and one-half years, or by both such fine and imprisonment. Nothing in this section or section one hundred and thirty-one E shall be construed to prohibit a parent or guardian from allowing his child or ward, who has not attained age fifteen, the supervised use of a rifle or shotgun or ammunition therefor, according to the provisions of section one hundred and twenty-nine C, nor from furnishing such child or ward, who has attained age fifteen, with a rifle or shotgun that is not a large capacity weapon or ammunition; provided, however, that said child or ward, being fifteen years of age or older, has been issued a valid firearm identification card or alien permit to possess a rifle or shotgun which is in his possession.Nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit an instructor from furnishing rifles or shotguns or ammunition therefor to pupils; provided, however, that said instructor has the consent of a parent or guardian of a pupil under the age of eighteen years.
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Nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit an instructor from furnishing rifles or shotguns or ammunition therefor to pupils; provided, however, that said instructor has the consent of a parent or guardian of a pupil under the age of eighteen years.
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Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
Spot NAZI
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