Heroin

[saltfly]

Karl,using my trusty metal detector I find quite a few at the beaches.The prime places to aviod are the benches at the beach and the 1st 25' or so from the tar parking lots.Summer is worse at the benches and picknic tables but that still happens in the winter.1st Encounter Beach in Eastham,Skaket in Orleans,and Herring Cove in ptwn seem to be the worst.Also,watch out for them in soda cans tossed out of vehicles too.

[Slingah]

Originally Posted by Karl F

unreal bob... they should be & instead...

right behind where i back my truck in at work... there always seems to be one or two that show up there per week too...

even worse.. was pullin into the Double Dragon lot parking next to a chitbox corrola, 4 younguns, dome light on.. and me sitting higher in the pickup, could look right in... they was cooking a spoon with a torch, right there middle of the lot at about 6 PM!!!... after grabbing my take out, there was another sedan pulled up next to them, dome lights on also, and i could see, some kind of.... exchange... on the way out of the lot, i see a cruiser parked over at Cookes... so i swing in and spill....
"um.. we would not want to interfere, as that might be under survelience by the State PD, or possibly DEA, or perhaps an ongoing investigation, maybe...... wouldn't want to upset the applecart..."...more likely... afraid of getting a .45 stuffed into his face.... which... bottom line... i can understand... i guess....

I'd say that cop was not doing his job....

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by Slingah

I'd say that cop was not doing his job....

It's quite possible that he was directed by his chief to leave drug arrests to the Cape Joint Drug Task Force.

We had a chief that for many years denied that there was a heroin problem here. Although none of the cops will come right out and say it, the word is that he actively discouraged them from making drugs arrests, so the scope of the problem here would be minimized. "Stay out of it, that's what the Task Force is for". To hear him talk, all of the junkies were from Wareham, and they stopped and turned around at the Cohassett Narrows Bridge.

Of course, it so happened that his side business was dependent on tourism.

[Slingah]

Originally Posted by Karl F

i'm not gonna judge him... either way... maybe he was telling me something, without really telling me something.... maybe, he was monitoring it, from where he was parked.... maybe he was gatherin plate #'s... or.. waiting to see if a bigger "fish" would come in to play...
or... perhaps, he wanted his shift to end, and go home in one piece, to his wife and kids.... i don't envy those guys their jobs, especially as most of them are now in waters that are uncharted for them...
so if he grabbed all 8 kids.. and found a few hundred bucks of smack... chances are.. Not One of them would do time....or go straight... I can truly understand the cops frustration with that too....i have seen first hand how the MA courts favor the rights of the perps... and that is what really Sucks!

hopefully he was on the case or couldnt say anything....I wouldnt want his job either but if he was looking the other way cuz he thought it would do no good or he was scared, that is wrong in my opinion. Arrest and get them in the system....that chit is the devil...horrible, horrible drug. Good luck down there I hope they find away to deal...it is everywhere...

[Swimmer]

Or at least thats how the courts treat it. Arrest them, lock them up, and the judge lets them go because nobody wants to deal with them. The judiciary lets thier social mantra be used as a cover for thier unwillingness to get involved, have the courage to place some in jail, and save thier lives. I have seen these kids. We would start dealing with them before they are teenagers. Always the kid that never had any set hours, parents didn't care if he/she came home or not. The schools new of what was going on and they are mandated reporters for child abuse. Ask a teacher when the last time he or any of thier colleagues ever filed a report with D.C.F. (formerly D.S.S.) about suspected child abuse. Teachers are the people that see the same kids come to school everyday in the same clothes. Schools are a big line of defense on these issues, but the ball gets dropped at this juncture most of the time. By the time they get to me and my colleagues, its too late. Those guys should have driven over there and dragged them out of the car Karl. Next time call the station and tell the O.I.C. that you just made a report of heroin use and the officers did what they did, nothing. If they truly were being watched then somebody would let you know maybe not then but in a day or two maybe. You wouldn't believe how many parents ro family members enable heroin use and don't do drugs themselves. Allow it to occur in there home, freely. That is until these same family members come home and find the heroin addicted family member stole everything that wasn't tied down and sold it to the nearest pawn shop. Then all of a sudden we get flooded with the same old calls. "I don't know how this happened", or "I never saw this coming". What do you mean you never saw it coming mister, little Johnny hasn't been coming home till midnight since he was nine years old and you never saw this coming. It's unfortunate that its a problem that answers its own question most of the time. And the problem is usually answered by the untimely death of a person to young. I could go on and on. Thier is one more thing though. If needles weren't readily available without prescription in every pharmacy they wouldn't be found laying all over the god damn place. I mean what legislator could actually argue with a straight face that someone who does heroin on a regular basis would be kind enough to dispose of the used needles appropriately. Heroin users are the most self-centered people on the face of the planet. They do not care about anything but themselves, but we are suppose to expect them to throw needles with contaminated blood and heroin residue and god knows what other disease that because of the needle being used to intraveneously inject heroin into a users arm now contains. That was the most insane law I have ever seen.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Swimmer

Heroin users are the most self-centered people on the face of the planet. They do not care about anything but themselves

For sure Swimmer.

Friend of mine's son is an H addict. Lives under a Bruckner Expressway bridge by lowering a rope and using it to get up and down to his hut where he lives.

Greatest parents in the world that have tried everything humanly possible to get him off the stuff.

His Dad still goes to see him when he can be found, and his mother crys everytime there is snow and cold so worried about him.

He could care less what he has done to his parents.

[leo33]

it is pure evil.i've seen the evil it can due for way to long living near New Bedford.when i was younger it was the fishing industry that was caught up in the H.now it is the younger generation once they can no longer afford the prescription pills they turn to the H.
i counted the number of people i knew that the H has buried and i am up to 6.i'm only 36 way to young to know 6 people who have OD'd.the first was an older brother of a friend who was a fisherman when i was 12 and the last was my best friends younger brother 4 yrs ago.as some have said it has no boundaries.he came from a great family who tried everything to save him but the H was stronger than him.i can still hear his laugh today.

slatfly the big guys come from New Bedford no doubt about it.