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Old 12-16-2008, 03:40 PM   #1
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6xVMCs don't straighten out !
Anyone who uses them knows that.
The break or snap !
you can bend the trebles.

bass dawg,
careful with the gami octopus hooks. those will snap.

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Old 12-17-2008, 01:27 PM   #2
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you can bend the trebles.

bass dawg,
careful with the gami octopus hooks. those will snap.
yup

gami live baits for me
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Old 12-18-2008, 01:29 AM   #3
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thanks VERRRRY Much,

luds and jimmySly for the advice
about the Gammi Octo's,,,,,,,,,,,

nothing but Gammi Lives from here awn in.
or would you suggest mustad, VMC, others??

also to Crafty for letting me know it's all in me noggin!!

glad to sea that you and the Good doctor ironed
things out, Chris. thanks to the both of you for yer
wisdom and reflections. also, thanks to flap and BB!!

NIB, much thanks for your contributions as well!
missed you at RISAA last year,,,,,,,,,,,prolly by design
on your part. i hear ya though, the more i hook them the more i
am loving the fight and the Zen of it, and am only one or two more big gurls
away from being a frequent flyer in the over fiddy Club.
i know, i know, "doan tell me, SHOW me the weigh slips!!"

i am not saying so for recognition, nor does my ego need internet caressing, i would just like to reach THAT particular benchmark on me way to the World Record,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and yes that is my Ultimate Striperin' Goal~~ a legitimate 80#er, from tha surf!!!

if i garner sum high dollar schwag along the way, help me teammates to reclaim The Cup, win a shot at a Tundra, and get to surfcast with sum of NE's finest,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,then so BE it!!
*that is if the Striperin' Gods will allow.*

and i DO tip me hat when the beasts best me and they swim to fight on another Moon, this THREAD in and of itself is a tribute to the MONSTAHS "that get away". a year bigger and hopefully a year closer to my idiocy becoming consistency and my own drives and challenges being met. i release waaaaay more than i weigh, and feel good about my respect for our beloved prey,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

this was more about how long does it take and how many do EVEN the Best lose yearly,,,,,,,,,,,because it seems to me that it IS a progression, and that no matter HOW MANY it TAKES to land lahhhhge ~~with sum sense of regularity,

it is the journey that feeds OUR hunger, the hunt that fuels THE take,
and it is the striper dawn battles that beget OUR Striper Dreams.
of course, then there is the retelling of the tales!!

some of the best conversations i've ever had with ANYONE and the most intently i will ever listen to ANYONE has always been connected to God and fishing. NOW, even more so within this suprarecreation, surfcasting the Striper Coast, that takes surfcasting to its loftiest of heights
and causes many a man, woman, and child to seek a species' elusive splendor on serene and distant shores; surrounded by noone or alongside one's fishmate(s) latched onto a screaming drag and the trophy of a thousand haunts.

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Old 12-18-2008, 07:44 AM   #4
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BG, how are you typically losing them? are they breaking you off in the rocks, pulling the hook on you or getting slack and throwing the hook? I think knowing this will help us give advise. also, what rod are you using?

"Remember, my friend, that knowledge is stronger than memory, and we should not trust the weaker" - Van Helsing
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Old 12-19-2008, 05:40 AM   #5
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thanks Clogston,

i use an 11' glass mh rod, with a PENN750ssm for eels, riggies, sluggos, and chunks.
i use a 10' tsunami dolphin mh action with a 704Z for plugs, tins, and jiggggs.

last year i lost 2; 1 due to not re-spooling after sum decent feesh the night before~~rubbed the line on the rocks,,,,,,,and then SNAP (eeeeels set-up)!! the other because i hooked my eel the wrong way ~~she sucked it in and shook/ripped the eeeeel off the hook.

the year before that 2; 1 jumped and came right at me and jumped into a trough right at my feet green as she could be and she snapped the line(40#BGame uni to uni 25#PLine on the spool), the other one ona spook, wrapped my braid under a rock and started rolling herself up in the leader as i gave her more line(kayakker told me, as he was right on top of her)

the year before that 1; this beast hit a bug imitator that was not hooked properly, she hunkered down, and then spit my offering out like it was a waste of her time since i never got the hook set.

each event was a teacher, and each fight has made me more fit
for the next ones that WILL COME with next summer's migration.

that is, the Good Lord providing that me Honey Cove staaaaaaaays HOTTT
and me bones and my health be blessed to hop the Cape of Ann!!!

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Old 12-19-2008, 06:16 AM   #6
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How about #8

8. Who cares. It's just fishing. No one is gonna die. No one goes to jail (hopefully) Enjoy it for what it is.

Happy Holidays!!!

No boat, back in the suds.
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Old 12-20-2008, 12:01 AM   #7
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How about #8

8. Who cares. It's just fishing. No one is gonna die. No one goes to jail (hopefully) Enjoy it for what it is.

Happy Holidays!!!

#9 Fishing is stupid, anyways.

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Old 12-19-2008, 11:32 AM   #8
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thanks VERRRRY Much,

luds and jimmySly for the advice
about the Gammi Octo's,,,,,,,,,,,

nothing but Gammi Lives from here awn in.
or would you suggest mustad, VMC, others??

also to Crafty for letting me know it's all in me noggin!!

glad to sea that you and the Good doctor ironed
things out, Chris. thanks to the both of you for yer
wisdom and reflections. also, thanks to flap and BB!!

NIB, much thanks for your contributions as well!
missed you at RISAA last year,,,,,,,,,,,prolly by design
on your part. i hear ya though, the more i hook them the more i
am loving the fight and the Zen of it, and am only one or two more big gurls
away from being a frequent flyer in the over fiddy Club.
i know, i know, "doan tell me, SHOW me the weigh slips!!"

i am not saying so for recognition, nor does my ego need internet caressing, i would just like to reach THAT particular benchmark on me way to the World Record,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and yes that is my Ultimate Striperin' Goal~~ a legitimate 80#er, from tha surf!!!

if i garner sum high dollar schwag along the way, help me teammates to reclaim The Cup, win a shot at a Tundra, and get to surfcast with sum of NE's finest,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,then so BE it!! *that is if the Striperin' Gods will allow.*

and i DO tip me hat when the beasts best me and they swim to fight on another Moon, this THREAD in and of itself is a tribute to the MONSTAHS "that get away". a year bigger and hopefully a year closer to my idiocy becoming consistency and my own drives and challenges being met. i release waaaaay more than i weigh, and feel good about my respect for our beloved prey,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

this was more about how long does it take and how many do EVEN the Best lose yearly,,,,,,,,,,,because it seems to me that it IS a progression, and that no matter HOW MANY it TAKES to land lahhhhge ~~with sum sense of regularity,

it is the journey that feeds OUR hunger, the hunt that fuels THE take,
and it is the striper dawn battles that beget OUR Striper Dreams.
of course, then there is the retelling of the tales!!

some of the best conversations i've ever had with ANYONE and the most intently i will ever listen to ANYONE has always been connected to God and fishing. NOW, even more so within this suprarecreation, surfcasting the Striper Coast, that takes surfcasting to its loftiest of heights
and causes many a man, woman, and child to seek a species' elusive splendor on serene and distant shores; surrounded by noone or alongside one's fishmate(s) latched onto a screaming drag and the trophy of a thousand haunts.
maybe decksweeper can chime in on the vmc's.....model #
the one's he is using for eeling are really good hooks..thick shank...huge barb....wide gap..perfect eel hook...tough to find though
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Old 12-19-2008, 06:14 PM   #9
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maybe decksweeper can chime in on the vmc's.....model #
the one's he is using for eeling are really good hooks..thick shank...huge barb....wide gap..perfect eel hook...tough to find though
Yup, I know that one - got a source but I've been sticking to the old Mustad bronze live bait, 9146 or 7, whatever it is.

That VMC is pretty impressive and I've got one hanging on my tool rack right in front on me in the tackle shack. Keep thinking about giving them a try. There's also a short shank SS hook with a point like a ####ing hypodermic - but SS is brittle and a coupla whacks on the local rocks'd knock that thin point off in no time. Plus I'm not a big SS fan for the obvious reason.

The old bronze Mustads do require a lot of touching up with a file - but for the money, they're fine by me. I've always had good luck with 'em - if it ain't real broke...I don't bother messing with it.

I use a 5/0 or a 6/0 - I just don't like an offset hook or a kirbed point since I don't - as in won't - snell.

YMMV, I guess...

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Old 12-21-2008, 11:01 AM   #10
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you can bend the trebles.

bass dawg,
careful with the gami octopus hooks. those will snap.
I don't know about the Gami octopus, but a fish can bend any treble. 3x, 4x, 6x---don't matter.

Pulled hooks--even 9/0 jig hooks, are part of the game when you use a stiff rod, heavy braid and a tight drag. This year, I wound up using my All Star 1208 more, and found that I cut down pulled hooks measurably over the 1209. The 1208 has enough bend to the tip section, but it has a very strong mid-to-butt section and a lot of lifting power. There are still some places in the Canal where you have to horse the fish and the choice is pressure it to the limit of your gear and risk pulling the hook, or have it get around some nasty junk and risk the line abrading to the breaking point.

Pulled hooks, though, will happen on any rod. I dropped the biggest fish--well, what felt like the biggest fish anyway --that I hooked up with in the Canal using a 132 1M which is a relatively soft, parabolic rod. No slack, constant pressure on the fish, and the hooks just tore loose. Sometimes it's the angle between you and the fish

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