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Old 12-18-2008, 07:37 PM   #1
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Anyone have a picture of this color on a plug, or know where I can view one? thanks, Jim

sorry you didn't get that many real replies to your question
I guess with so many members intimidated to get turned in by the plug police, not many post pics of plugs anymore.

If I had some pics, I'd post then for you, sorry

good luck

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Old 12-18-2008, 07:48 PM   #2
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why is it that you are always trying to start stuff.......

you know what sooner or later every one is going to get fed up with you and you will be wondering what you did wrong.

OK I'm done with this site later ..........
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not starting anything smitty Every picture you've posted here lately is a plug on your site for sale and I'm busting your balls. Too many guys online lately publicly saying they're not selling then they post somewhere that they don't think it will get back to anyone they have stuff for sale. I sleep at night if it bothers others sorry.

WTF!



not starting anything? ya right

how do you have time for your hobby of busting balls? I thought you were a busy plug builder Scott. You are driving members away from here. Is that what you are trying to do? mold the forum to your liking? gimme a break please. the holier than thou schtik has gotten way old. Keep it up and this type of thing will really drive people away, it pains me to see this once great forum be a shell of what it once was or could be.

reply if you choose, here where you started it please, I don't want email

thanks for cooporating and getting along

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Old 12-18-2008, 08:09 PM   #3
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like I said, post reply here not by email or pm
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can i have another infraction now?

Careful or the plug police will pull you over

Bruce this has been gone around so many times it's pathetic and the guy is still doing it. I ain't the bad guy I'm only breakin his balls. Whether it's him, $%@#&*, @#$%^& or %$#@!*&(, any of these asschumps they're ALL selling their stuff in shops. Most doing it in unmarked bags now too...how freakin childish is that. The fact is EVERY single picture he's posted on that site has made it up for sale on his own website within a few weeks. He's trolling for sales at the Asbury show or online thru pm's or his own site.

I very seriously doubt saying something to someone pulling this stuff keeps someone from legitimately putting up pics of their stuff. If it does then there's something wrong.
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yep something is wrong
members have told me they are not comfortable posting pics of their plugs.

what is it to you if some people do sell plugs anyway? you don't have to make it your own personal crusade to call people out on the forum.

just reply on the thread please and sort it out where you started it,

thanks, Bruce

no need for speculation, try giving people the benefit of a doubt

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Old 12-18-2008, 09:03 PM   #4
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Play nice boys...


Seriously though I did not see that Smitty was directly trying to sell plugs in the post so whats the problem? I dont know what the intent was and I dont get into the "politics" between plugs builders (thank goodness) so other than a pic of some plugs pertaining to the original question I dont see a problem here.That is after all what this forum is for, no? To make plugs, share info and learn from each other?

Simplify.......
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Old 12-18-2008, 09:11 PM   #5
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hey Bruce you want it public here it is! I sent you a pm because I didn't feel this belonged online. Since your a moderator and said post it here then hey why not I got NOTHING to hide.

Why should I or Bigfish or Afterhours pay to be a sponsor of this site when guys like Smitty, Sporty, Fishdoc, Charleston, Baystalker, and many many more continually post pictures on here when they're doing nothing but trolling for sales?

Let's take smitty for instance. Every single post he's had with pictures here recently HAS been posted somewhere else including his own website with pictures of the same plugs in packages and for sale. So it's fair to everyone on here for this to keep happening time and time again? We been through this before and it's a sticky at the top of the forum. Not only is it against the site's policy of giving these guys free advertising in some cases these guys are in shops in plain package wrappers, or selling on other private forums here BLATANTLY and also doing it via private messages.

I've seen enough of this bs to last a lifetime. And when I do I'm going to say something. Why anyone would have a problem posting pictures of something if they're not selling or have nothing to hide is beyond me, nor can I understand why you feel it drives people away. I don't even post pictures here anymore because I've heard enough crap about being spam spam spam etc myself.

NO holier than though attitude. MY attitude is if your gonna sell then PAY to be a sponsor, PAY your frickin taxes-state, federal, and excise! Why should any of these guys get to make more money than any advertiser here!

Bruce you or anyone else can flame all you want I couldn't care less. Not one of these guys affects what I do every day but I'm tired of paying through the frickin nose every day when these guerilla marketers play cheat the system behind the scenes.

IT'S NOT FAIR to ANYONE who supports this site. The difference is I got the balls to say it publicly.

RANT OFF
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:12 PM   #6
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My last reply apparently got edited so here goes again.

Scott, if you, Bigfish or Afterhours, or any other sponsors have legitimate feeling that someone is spamming the forum, let me know. Please don't take it upon yourself to be the moderator / plug police or whatever. The purpose of this forum is to share plug building info, not to decide who can post what or who is doing what.

This plug board is a litle stagnant, partially due to crap like this, and it is time for that to change. If you or anyone else has a problem with that, contact me.

From here on out, no more "Ball Busting" suspected "Spammers" that are participating in the forums.

For those that are selling commercially elsewhere, please, I encourage you to participate and enjoy the forums. I also think it is more than reasonable to NOT conduct selling here. Thanks!

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Old 12-19-2008, 07:16 AM   #7
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Just for the record i am a commercial builder and do pay all my tax's.
I have never and will never pm any person to sell my plugs. "dont need to"

I posted 3 plug pictures of plugs including the wonder breads in the last 2 months so i dont know how you say im spamming yes 2 of them are now something on my site but that was it.

This is and will be the 2nd site i dont visit any more due to the problems you start with other builders just not worth it.....

I really hope you dont drive this one to the ground as you did with the others.

See you all on the flip side......
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Old 12-28-2008, 10:58 PM   #8
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hey Bruce you want it public here it is! I sent you a pm because I didn't feel this belonged online. Since your a moderator and said post it here then hey why not I got NOTHING to hide.

Why should I or Bigfish or Afterhours pay to be a sponsor of this site when guys like Smitty, Sporty, Fishdoc, Charleston, Baystalker, and many many more continually post pictures on here when they're doing nothing but trolling for sales?


IT'S NOT FAIR to ANYONE who supports this site. The difference is I got the balls to say it publicly.

RANT OFF
Trolling for sales? You will never change Scott. You'll talk crap about anyone as long as it promotes your agenda. Do me a favor, leave me out of your pissing and moaning.

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Old 12-28-2008, 11:40 PM   #9
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This thread is all apples and oranges...

apples is that scott called one out for posting a picture of a lure that the guy sells some where else.. I think thats wrong as the guy didnt mention anything about selling or being contacted to sell..

oranges is about personal responsibility. Those that do sell should post respectfully and those who dont should do the same..
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Old 12-29-2008, 08:08 AM   #10
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This thread is all apples and oranges...

apples is that scott called one out for posting a picture of a lure that the guy sells some where else.. I think thats wrong as the guy didnt mention anything about selling or being contacted to sell..

oranges is about personal responsibility. Those that do sell should post respectfully and those who dont should do the same..
I hadn't opened this thread until this morning. I thought "I need to read how the other guys do it cause I tried mixing (blending actually) colrs to get that soft old style Wonderbread like the old bombers and have failed miserably. Then I start to read the rest of this.

I come here to learn. I haven't leaned much lately (last 2 years actually). I do love Plugfest and it's basic premise. I do beleive a lot of builders in the commercial end do not give credit where credit is due, which, when I do bitch, is my main complaint and it gets me in mui caliente agua ( my spanish sucks as you can tell). If it looks like a duck , swims like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck, maybe your version is slightly different but it is still a duck.

I learn more now when I spend time in Numby's cellar or a day fishing with Tagger or listeneing to Prof M as he casts and talks to the bass on a calm flat in CC Bay at dawn then here.

Hours on the phone with TC or quiet talks with Stan Kuszia are what I live for now to make my plugbuilding better. I miss Bassmaster beleive it or not and those days when Mr. Pogie and others long gone from this forum posted regularly.

Leave yur egos at the door, share and learn and celebrate success when someone posts pics of what they have achieved in thier progress.

I wish I had never opened this to look at. The thrill is gone in building, no motivation here which is what I thrived on. Thank God for new Stratocasters. My plug building is suffering but my playing just gets bettter and better!

Why even try.........
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