spook tail weight ?

[Lower]

Oh and I'll defintily post some pics and results (if/when I find open water). Until I can test them I'm curious what the "on paper" results are.

[numbskull]

Not sure what you mean by 2/3 down (? a belly weight 2/3 rds the way back). Most tail weighted spooks/howdys float near vertical. Jigman's excellent spook floats at a 15-20 degree angle. Both ways work well.

[Lower]

Sorry I guess I wasn't all that clear. I guess what I'm getting at is if there would be a difference between a belly (2/3rds the way down like a ballerina) and a tail weighted spook IF they sit at the same angle in the water. So plug 1 is weighted like a ballerina and sits at 20 degrees and plug 2 is tail weighted and also sits at 20 degrees. Would you expect any difference in action? More of a conversation question I guess.

[PNG]

Originally Posted by Lower

Sorry I guess I wasn't all that clear. I guess what I'm getting at is if there would be a difference between a belly (2/3rds the way down like a ballerina) and a tail weighted spook IF they sit at the same angle in the water. So plug 1 is weighted like a ballerina and sits at 20 degrees and plug 2 is tail weighted and also sits at 20 degrees. Would you expect any difference in action? More of a conversation question I guess.

I think getting the 2 plugs to sit at the same declination being weighted differently would be hard to do.
What is it you are trying to accomplish?
While the spook and ballerina are cousins they have seperate applications.
Like you said a ballerina glides more than a spook. I would put the Jigsmith in the glide catagory. Awesome plug. Wind picks up I want a spook. Tail weight punches the wind better. More wind a pencil.

[Jigman]

Originally Posted by PNG

... Wind picks up I want a spook. Tail weight punches the wind better. More wind a pencil.

I agree. A spook will cast well, but its really not a distance plug or something that will cut the wind well. A popper or a pencil are better for that purpose.

Tail weight will give you better distance, belly weight will hold better in rougher water. Action is a little different, even if they sit the same in the water. Belly weight give more of a glide. Best way to know for sure is to do up a couple, one with a tail weight, the other belly weight and compare.

Jigman

[Lower]

Thanks PNG and Jigman. Took a few picture...this will help. I started by turning a spook shape while looking at a picture of a bunker. Was looking for a little shorter fatter profile than a ballerina or spook. Once I got that I was playing around with how I would finish the plug (weights, line ties, etc). I understand how ballerina's differ from howdy's differ from a traditional spook. What I couldn't quite grasp is how the exact plug would differ with the different tail weighting schemes.

[Lower]

The first picture is of the two weighting schemes on matching plugs. The second is of the two line ties I'm going to try. So there are 4 plugs. 2 low line ties and two regular. One tail weighted one belly of each. I have plenty of howdy (heavy tail weight) type plugs. I'm kind of looking for a more slow glide type walk.

Anyway...just thought this might make for some interesting discussion.

[Tagger]

Originally Posted by Jigman

I agree. A spook will cast well, but its really not a distance plug or something that will cut the wind well. A popper or a pencil are better for that purpose.

Tail weight will give you better distance, belly weight will hold better in rougher water. Action is a little different, even if they sit the same in the water. Belly weight give more of a glide. Best way to know for sure is to do up a couple, one with a tail weight, the other belly weight and compare.

Jigman

What ever Jiggy says ... Bernzy will tell you about his Howdy . "Its Not a Spook",,, Orig. Cordell Boy Howdy was a stick bait ... sits near vertical like a PP .You can walk it like a PP and catch tons of fish ..Your talking about optimun spook glide ..sit like jiggys ,,

[Lower]

Thanks guys...I guess this was more of the conversation I was looking for. Pictures always help I guess.

I've caught hundreds of fish on the "howdy" type design. Long, thin, lots of tail weight. I guess with this one I was going for a bit more for a traditional spook. Maybe tail down 10-20 degrees and sit more horizontal. As numbskull said, I think loading the tail with too much weight wouldn't work with this shape. I'll take a couple more pics with them in the water.

Tagger...I don't have a jigman spook or a jigsmith to compare. So I'm just going on what you guys tell me.

Jigman...I'll turn one more and move the weight closer to the belly hook. Belly hook placement is just a starting point too.

Bigfish...Didn't realize the blitzseeker was weighted that way. Neat idea.

The hardest part is that its fun to try some new designs in the winter, but then testing them is impossible when everything around you is frozen!

[Ake G]

More horizontal = better glide (no matter where you choose to weight it). The belly weighting gives less roll on the swing.

Spooks with glide are more productive than those that "pop" IMO