For the seal lovers(sarcasm): No Recovery for Atlantic Cod Population

[NIB]

I got a call last night 2 seals where sitting on top of my herring pen.I heard they where eating flounder like NIB on a flapjack blitz earlier in the day..If it wasn't 19 degrees I would have went down there with a baseball bat.They are eating machines.And they are not welcome in NJ..They have no idea what they are up against here..
This ain't Massachusetts.The land of fruits an nuts east.

[5/0]

They taste like chicken so what do you say.....I'll have a party burn many X-Mass trees drink beer and we'll deep fry-em

Problem solved!

BTW Raven nice Photochop LMAO!!!!!

[Clogston29]

so we basically screw up the entire ocean ecosystem by overharvesting, and its the seals fault?

definately a sign of probems that haddock was half the price of cod when i bought some the other day.

[big jay]

Originally Posted by Clogston29

so we basically screw up the entire ocean ecosystem by overharvesting, and its the seals fault?

definately a sign of probems that haddock was half the price of cod when i bought some the other day.

I think we screw up the ecosystem by not harvesting ANY of the natural predators.

We have let seal populations run rampant b/c they are cute and cuddly and now they are devastating the fisheries. Fisherman traditional hunted seals to keep the populations down and protect their fisheries -- it wasn't that long ago that towns on the cape paid bounties for seal noses (no need to bring the whole body in to get paid, just the nose for proof).

Eliminate the predator of any species, and that species will run rampant - in this case, we have eliminated man, and now the seal populations will grow unchecked.

[maddmatt]

Originally Posted by Clogston29

so we basically screw up the entire ocean ecosystem by overharvesting, and its the seals fault?

ummmmmm. yep

[maddmatt]

Originally Posted by Karl F

it's FEDERAL LAW Nib... that's Hard Time, or Big Fine... if they catch ya, and they confiscate everything that's with you when they grab you.

or does Soprano law supercede the federalies...... in the Gawden State?

i'll go naked and beat them with a broken hockey stick! the feds can have all the backhair they want.

wait till these things show up in montauk, those guys don't play! there'll be seal bodies everywhere!

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by maddmatt

i'll go naked and beat them with a broken hockey stick! the feds can have all the backhair they want.

wait till these things show up in montauk, those guys don't play! there'll be seal bodies everywhere!

They have been in Montauk for years already. They just don't stay around a long as they do in MA.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

They have been in Montauk for years already. They just don't stay around a long as they do in MA.

Don't stay around as long? Do they ever actually leave the Cape?

[Stroth]

We actually protect the seals because they are more like us than the fish. Mammalism. We personify them as somewhat human because they are kinda like us. They breathe air, and sort of have some humanistic behaviors, therefore we are much more likely to protect them, then say a whiting....

Why do people get so fired up about whales and manatees, but could give two cents regarding a herring or an anchovy? Same principal, the more something is like you, the more you want to protect it.

IMHO far more damage has been done by dragger type vessels destroying habitat over more than a hundred years than any type of seal. seals are where they are now and hunt where they hunt now because we destroyed their other habitats. we knew of the dangers of dragger type fishing almost since its inception and yet the rampant destruction went on. has more to do with us as a species allowing it to go on than it does for the seal.

you want cod to live forever, well maybe you shouldn't have pulled a dragger over their grounds for a hundred plus years!

blame the seals, blame global warming, on and on it goes, only thing we truly have to blame is us.....

[Mr. Sandman]

They stick around all summer here. If you look at them the wrong way...even buzz them with a plane you will be "attacked" by the wackos.


You will never get the environmental wackos to get on the culling the seal heard...never.

Our only hope would be that massive schools of Great Whites move in and wreck havoc with the swimming beaches to the point where a lot of people die. Once that happens (a few hundred are attacked on our beaches) then, maybe we can get community to re-open the seal season to thin them out.

[maddmatt]

Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman

You will never get the environmental wackos to get on the culling the seal heard...never.

i guess we need an environmental wacko season...2 per day, 28 inches, no closed season. the caliber must be .223 or larger. sunday hunting allowed.

[quick decision]

Originally Posted by maddmatt

i'll go naked and beat them with a broken hockey stick! the feds can have all the backhair they want.

wait till these things show up in montauk, those guys don't play! there'll be seal bodies everywhere!

I saw seals last fall in Montauk. I wonder if there are more sharks in those waters to keep the numbers down.

[Raven]

every time you see seals -> throw some their way..

as sharks can smell a drop of blood from 5 kilometers away

which is a little over three miles..

[Clogston29]

just look at the amount of seals on the rocks of south africa where all those great white videos are taken. sharks are never going to control the seal population to a level that we as fisherman will be happy with. they, sharks, are not that plentiful and there would be no survival advantage to them to move in and wipe out the population. at most, just enough of them will move in to take advantage of the current population IMO.

montauk is warmer, that's why there are fewer seals there IMO.

[Raven]

Excellent point....