Urban/Suburban/Rural breakdown of 1988-2008 election

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

And Comments like that really help change the image of the republican party.

So your 60 hour work week, because you make a nice salary, means your successful while the guy working 2 jobs and 60 hours a week at minimum wage make him a low life.

That may not be what you meant but that sure as hell is how it reads

it depends, does that person making minimum wage feel that he/she is entitled to equal housing, equal education for their children and equal medical benefits as everyone else? If yes, then you have accurately captured my opinion.

I'm sure you and others will hop on a moral high horse, but in reality, none of you would want your vision of America to look like urban centers. You dont want many of those residents living next to you or your kids going to school with those kids. These people all have equal opportunity to better themselves, the governments job is not better them. The Democrative agenda to me, is to lower everyone to the same level. Punish success.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Then if thats what you mean then why don't you say it like that instead of lumping everybody together and calling them a derogatory term....thats where my issue lies with what you stated.

I've stated before I don't believe anybody is entitled, you get what you earn.....but I also don't believe on %$%$%$%$ting on somebody if i don't know their circumstances.

A guy doesn't speak good english...well he must be an illegal Alien. (even though he came here on a legal visa to try and make a better life for himself)

A guy using Food stamps...Well just another guy milking the system tit. (Even though he just got laid off from his job that he worked for the last 10 years)

Just because a Guy doesn't make it into the higher 3rd of the earners of this country doen't make him less of a man than anyone else.

Definition: lowlife

noun
a person who is deemed to be despicable or contemptible;

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

it depends, does that person making minimum wage feel that he/she is entitled to equal housing, equal education for their children and equal medical benefits as everyone else? If yes, then you have accurately captured my opinion.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

A guy using Food stamps...Well just another guy milking the system tit. (Even though he just got laid off from his job that he worked for the last 10 years)

Just because a Guy doesn't make it into the higher 3rd of the earners of this country doen't make him less of a man than anyone else.

Agreed 100%. The welfare system was designed for those who've lost their job, been injured or had a death of the bread-maker. Unfortunately, it has turned into a money tree for those who choose not to get a real job/education, or have 6 kids even though they have no education or skills.

The crime is that it has resulted in everyone getting gov't assistance looking like a low-life bum. The worst is for those people that have extinguished all other options and have enough pride in themselves to use it as an absolute last resort (sometimes waiting significantly longer than they should) - that's a person that should never be called a low-life.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

it has turned into a money tree for those who choose not to get a real job/education, or have 6 kids even though they have no education or skills.

Agree with that 100% and those are the people that are the problem...I don't have any sympathy for them.

[fishbones]

JohnnyD and The Dad Fisherman,

I've always been on the conservative side of the fence. But working where I do now, has made me even more so. I still believe that there are people who legitimately use unemployment and welfare as tools to make it through tough times and get back on their feet. But, there are people who manipulate the system to avoid having to fully support themselves.

If you ever want to see people "milking the system" come to work with me some day. You probably wouldn't believe some of the crap I have do for people who have no desire to support themselves. I see it in the real world (or for what passes for the real world in Providence, RI) every day that I go to work. It may not happen where you guys live and work, but I'm not exagerrating when I say that I have to send out at few as 1 and as many as 5 or 6 letters each week to employees who quit their jobs or get fired. They need letters to bring to their case workers so they can continue receiving government benefits. Most of these employees quit or do something to get themselves fired within the first month of employment. I've actually had people tell me that I have to put in the letter that they were laid off so they can get their benefits.

Then, there are other people from the same neighborhoods who are dealing with the same circumstances that want to get off the system and support themselves. And while they bust their tails working for minimum wage, the lazy a-holes sit at home eating Doritos and watching Dr. Phil.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by fishbones

If you ever want to see people "milking the system" come to work with me some day. You probably wouldn't believe some of the crap I have do for people who have no desire to support themselves. I see it in the real world (or for what passes for the real world in Providence, RI) every day that I go to work. It may not happen where you guys live and work, but I'm not exagerrating when I say that I have to send out at few as 1 and as many as 5 or 6 letters each week to employees who quit their jobs or get fired. They need letters to bring to their case workers so they can continue receiving government benefits. Most of these employees quit or do something to get themselves fired within the first month of employment. I've actually had people tell me that I have to put in the letter that they were laid off so they can get their benefits.

Then, there are other people from the same neighborhoods who are dealing with the same circumstances that want to get off the system and support themselves. And while they bust their tails working for minimum wage, the lazy a-holes sit at home eating Doritos and watching Dr. Phil.

I believe all of it. Which is why I've always been a supporter of decreased Welfare benefits and increased oversight. I worked the Emergency medical field in Hartford for 3 years and I was continually amazed. Women having their 4th kid at the age of 21. People with BMWs and big screen TVs in their homes but are on State health insurance.

It's interesting that you had to send those letters out even for people that were only there a month. In MA, I believe you have to be employed for 90 days before you are eligible for any kind of state benefits due to losing your job. If I could, I'd also refuse to send the letters out for those that were fired. I wouldn't doubt they were fired for the same reasons they want welfare - laziness.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Oh I know there's plenty of people scamming the system.....I've seen it. Would never deny it. And got no use for them. It just strikes a nerve in me when everybody gets lumped in to that group because they legitimately need assistance.

Besides I feel better now knowing that RIJimmy loves me....

Originally Posted by fishbones

JohnnyD and The Dad Fisherman,

I've always been on the conservative side of the fence. But working where I do now, has made me even more so. I still believe that there are people who legitimately use unemployment and welfare as tools to make it through tough times and get back on their feet. But, there are people who manipulate the system to avoid having to fully support themselves.

If you ever want to see people "milking the system" come to work with me some day. You probably wouldn't believe some of the crap I have do for people who have no desire to support themselves. I see it in the real world (or for what passes for the real world in Providence, RI) every day that I go to work. It may not happen where you guys live and work, but I'm not exagerrating when I say that I have to send out at few as 1 and as many as 5 or 6 letters each week to employees who quit their jobs or get fired. They need letters to bring to their case workers so they can continue receiving government benefits. Most of these employees quit or do something to get themselves fired within the first month of employment. I've actually had people tell me that I have to put in the letter that they were laid off so they can get their benefits.

Then, there are other people from the same neighborhoods who are dealing with the same circumstances that want to get off the system and support themselves. And while they bust their tails working for minimum wage, the lazy a-holes sit at home eating Doritos and watching Dr. Phil.

[EarnedStripes44]

[QUOTE=RIJIMMY;654944] You dont want many of those residents living next to you or your kids going to school with those kids.[QUOTE]

With those kids.......

Are you referring to the 3rd graders I tutored in Booker T. Washington High School College. Or the Burke and Madison students that attend my Financial literacy workshops every summer. Which kids are you talking about.