We need a leader like this

[buckman]

My bad for posting this. But really who would disagree with it anyway. Seems reasonable, fair and to the point.

I don't see it as asking for trouble. You would have to be walking around scared and on eggshells to think that. That's no way to go through life.

[Joe]

Originally Posted by buckman

I don't see it as asking for trouble. You would have to be walking around scared and on eggshells to think that. That's no way to go through life.

I don't agree with this b.s. speech, but I might agree with the next one.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by buckman

I don't see it as asking for trouble. You would have to be walking around scared and on eggshells to think that. That's no way to go through life.

Telling a gangster "I'm not afraid of you and your gun" is a good way to get shot.

Not a good way to go through life.

[detbuch]

Are you saying that Radical Muslims are gangsters with guns and that we should give them our goods rather than standing up to them? Actually, it's probably best to have laws that discourage gangsters with guns rather than waiting to be confronted by them. And when they do show up, not to treat them so nicely as to encourage them to continue about there ways.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by likwid

Telling a gangster "I'm not afraid of you and your gun" is a good way to get shot.

Not a good way to go through life.

Are you saying that Radicall Muslims are gangsters with guns and that we should give them our goods? Actually it's probably better to have laws that discourage gangsters with guns rather than waiting to be confronted by them. And when they do show up, not to treat them so nicely as to encourage them to continue about their ways.

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

My bad for posting this. But really who would disagree with it anyway. Seems reasonable, fair and to the point.

I don't see it as asking for trouble. You would have to be walking around scared and on eggshells to think that. That's no way to go through life.

There are a lot of people who would agree that wiretapping mosques is a prudent action because most terrorists are Muslims.

Unfortunately it's also racist, immoral, illegal and goes against the very fabric that our nation was founded on.

Militant Islamists use the argument that the West is out to destroy Islam as a primary tool to gain sympathy from moderates and push those on the fringe toward the dark side.

Asserting that all Muslims are suspects because of their religion and culture, by those who also claim that adhering to the rule of law gives unique legitimacy, it completely hypocritical and plays into the hand of those wishing to incite terrorism.

By starting this thread you may have very likely helped to bring on another attack.

Good job.

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

There are a lot of people who would agree that wiretapping mosques is a prudent action because most terrorists are Muslims.

Unfortunately it's also racist, immoral, illegal and goes against the very fabric that our nation was founded on.

Militant Islamists use the argument that the West is out to destroy Islam as a primary tool to gain sympathy from moderates and push those on the fringe toward the dark side.

Asserting that all Muslims are suspects because of their religion and culture, by those who also claim that adhering to the rule of law gives unique legitimacy, it completely hypocritical and plays into the hand of those wishing to incite terrorism.

By starting this thread you may have very likely helped to bring on another attack.

Good job.

-spence

I'll assume your last part is a joke. At least I hope it is. Cowering in a corner and not confronting terorrism will not work.

Did it work with the bullies back in school? You had to smack them in the mouth. Right? Same applies here.

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

I'll assume your last part is a joke. At least I hope it is. Cowering in a corner and not confronting terorrism will not work.

Did it work with the bullies back in school? You had to smack them in the mouth. Right? Same applies here.

The example set by the fake email asserts that since the south side of town is where the bullies tend to come from, you should smack everyone from the south side of town. It's a preemptive action, hell, it's a preventative action!

This might have worked during the British Empire when it was considered fine and jolly right to wipe out a people if they were a perceived threat to the crown. But we live in a country where all people have rights by design, it's sort of the thing that made the good old USA a bit unique 200 years ago.

This isn't a black or white decision. Anyone who believes we need to compromise our beliefs to ensure our safety, doesn't seem to have much faith in the American system or American people.

And where does all this "cowering in a corner" crap come from? Seems to be a worn out device used by some when they either run out of ideas, or just don't get it.

-spence