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Old 02-02-2009, 09:05 AM   #1
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Yea Mike .. Its called cutting each others throats ..

Salary ? sure great .. Work late at night ? sure boss.. Work every Saturday ? no problem .. Work for less ? ..Ok .. How about Sundays ? oh I can't work Sunday .. Next !!!!
Its the same situation from the top down, Ed. Everyone is doing more with less. From a hiring perspective, its a great opportunity to acquire very good talent that may not have been available during the peak ecomonic boom when there were fewer potential candidates out there.
Throat cutting? Not in my mind. You need to adapt to survive, IMO. I would call it value creation.
There's no guarantee if we come out of this mess that things will be as they were before. What's happening now may become the norm, meaning as good as one may be at their job, they'll need to get even better just to keep a small piece of the pie.

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Old 02-02-2009, 09:20 AM   #2
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Its the same situation from the top down, Ed. Everyone is doing more with less. From a hiring perspective, its a great opportunity to acquire very good talent that may not have been available during the peak ecomonic boom when there were fewer potential candidates out there.
Throat cutting? Not in my mind. You need to adapt to survive, IMO. I would call it value creation.
There's no guarantee if we come out of this mess that things will be as they were before. What's happening now may become the norm, meaning as good as one may be at their job, they'll need to get even better just to keep a small piece of the pie.
Which is the very thing this country was founded on.

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Old 02-02-2009, 09:30 AM   #3
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On another level, I did some reading this week and one author noted although things suck right now, many people expressed a sense of relief when notified of their job loss. Why?
Many people are very unhappy with their employment and it goes beyond their income/financial position. There's miserable rich folks out there too.
"If I hadn't lost my(crappy/miserable/stressful) job at XYZ company, I would have never realized there were better things out there."

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Old 02-02-2009, 06:41 PM   #4
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On another level, I did some reading this week and one author noted although things suck right now, many people expressed a sense of relief when notified of their job loss. Why?
Many people are very unhappy with their employment and it goes beyond their income/financial position. There's miserable rich folks out there too.
"If I hadn't lost my(crappy/miserable/stressful) job at XYZ company, I would have never realized there were better things out there."


Yes Sir I can't agree with you more on that!
Im glad the Co. I worked for closed it's doors and I changed my career,I love my job every day there's something new,Im very lucky to have found something that intrests me 100%

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Old 02-02-2009, 07:03 PM   #5
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Yes Sir I can't agree with you more on that!
Im glad the Co. I worked for closed it's doors and I changed my career,I love my job every day there's something new,Im very lucky to have found something that intrests me 100%

Plus Im appreciated there........Im going place's

Good for you, I am glad that there is at least one shining point of light still out there from Bush Sr's. second term
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:24 AM   #6
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What's happening now may become the norm, meaning as good as one may be at their job, they'll need to get even better just to keep a small piece of the pie.
I'm already awesome .. Can't imagine being any awesomer.. I made it to 30 from 300 .. no xmas partys, no golf outings, no working on bosses house ,, no stopping by the office after to work to say HI, no bad mouthing others,, no using co workers as rungs on the ladder of success,, not related ,, nobodys brother in law . I'll work like a dog ,, none of this other monkey buisness ,. Makes me ill .. Stupid ,dumb, pride won't allow me to compete on this level .. You see it going this way as work gets tight .. disgusting ,,.
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.. no xmas partys, no golf outings, no working on bosses house ,, no stopping by the office after to work to say HI, no bad mouthing others,, no using co workers as rungs on the ladder of success,, not related ,,
The stuff you mention above wasn't what I was thinking in terms of creating value. I'm talking about acquiring new/more skills and yes, having to put in a little more time/become more flexible.

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The stuff you mention above wasn't what I was thinking in terms of creating value. I'm talking about acquiring new/more skills and yes, having to put in a little more time/become more flexible.
exactly! The people I know who got laid off are seeking advanced education, certifications, etc. If this country wants to be competitive as a whole, we need to be competitive individually.

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... advanced education, certifications, etc. If this country wants to be competitive as a whole, we need to be competitive individually.
The scariest thing one of my employers ever told me was, "You can stay here as long as you want." It sent shivers down my spine as the statement implied I was as good as I'd ever be at my job. Since then, I've followed the above stated path and will never look backwards.

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as i was watching the bud ads super bowl sunday "THE GREAT AMERICAN LARGER" i was thinking it is now foreign owned-wow-we export all our jobs overseas and companys.i'm thinking looking back it pretty much started with sam walton.
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Paul - sorry to hear this. Fortunately for you, you are good and will continue to do well. Did they slash your commission too?

Very tough times - thinking of starting a job board here, for networking purposes....

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