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		|  02-04-2009, 08:49 PM | #1 |  
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		|  02-04-2009, 10:14 PM | #2 |  
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				 | All of the above.
 I think you have to evaluate the total package and look at your quality of life.
 
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		|  02-04-2009, 11:06 PM | #3 |  
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				 | Salary in today's job world. All job's come with ins these day's. I would worry more about salary. Salary will get you through the week or month. Benefits more than health ins have been a waste even for people at retirement age. This all depends on nothing. Cash is king right now. Take the salary. Save your own money. No more than 100k in an individual bank if you have it. Ins companies do everything not to pay and your $ isn't safe anywhere right now. Take the cash and health which is required and nothing else. I have been talking to people who have been at their jobs 20 + years and can't do anything with their $ because it isn't there. It's sad but true. The only thing anyone can promise is death and taxes. Take the SALARY, OLD OR YOUNG. You can get health and life ins cheaper than your employer these days. Hope this helped. |  
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		|  02-04-2009, 11:27 PM | #4 |  
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					Originally Posted by spence  All of the above.
 I think you have to evaluate the total package and look at your quality of life.
 
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		|  02-06-2009, 08:51 AM | #5 |  
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					Originally Posted by WESTPORTMAFIA  The problem is people don't have the choice to evaluate the package at this point never mind their quality of life. |  Nonsense.
 
It's a still a free society, even if you are handcuffed by economic issues.
 
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					Originally Posted by WESTPORTMAFIA  No such thing these day's. |  More Nonsense.
 
Say the unemployment rate is at 10% and things are really bad for some...that also means that the other 90% is employed !!!
 
Same thing when I hear our salespeople complain about a decline in spending for our industry. Even if it dropped 30% that still means 70% is being spent, you just have to work harder and smarter to get it.
 
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		|  02-04-2009, 11:29 PM | #6 |  
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					Originally Posted by Nebe  stability |  No such thing these day's. |  
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		|  02-05-2009, 04:00 PM | #7 |  
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				 | Benefits come in all shapes and sizes. While I get decent healthcare/vacation/sick at my job the biggest benefits to me are my 2 minute commute and my ultra-flexible schedule. Those are the benefits that offer up quality of life and it would take a significant amount of salary increase for me to even consider looking for another job. These days, job security should also be considered a benefit.   |  
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		|  02-06-2009, 12:29 PM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by WESTPORTMAFIA  No such thing these day's. |  
Sure thier is, become a cop, it's a growth industry.  Always has been, always will be. |  
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		|  02-06-2009, 01:19 PM | #9 |  
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				 | health insurance is incredibly important, but don't overlook the 401K programs, a matching program type thing can actually end up being a lot of money if you stay with the company for a while.
 the upward mobility point that was mentioned is also incredibliy important.  If you know that the company isn't likely to promote from within and all that, try and take them for all their worth!
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		|  02-06-2009, 01:47 PM | #10 |  
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				 | Benefits are extremely important. It's unrealistic to expect that you are not going to eventually experience a decline in health. 
 Personally, I think affordable health care would spur a rise in entrepreneurship and open up a lot of jobs. I know several people who can afford to retire now, but can't afford to retire and buy health insurance at the current premiums. I know several other people, talented individuals, who would be working for themselves, if it were not for health care costs.
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		|  02-06-2009, 03:33 PM | #11 |  
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					Originally Posted by Joe  Benefits are extremely important. It's unrealistic to expect that you are not going to eventually experience a decline in health. 
 Personally, I think affordable health care would spur a rise in entrepreneurship and open up a lot of jobs. I know several people who can afford to retire now, but can't afford to retire and buy health insurance at the current premiums. I know several other people, talented individuals, who would be working for themselves, if it were not for health care costs.
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		|  02-06-2009, 06:23 PM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by Nebe  stability |  ya that's because we don't have benefits Nebe. But we have some flexibility depending on responsibilities. 
Health care is a major importance, my wife works pretty much just for that. I tried to swing that for the 3 years she was out of work and it was killing me, now my body needs the health insurance    
To answer the question, I'd have to agree with Backbeach, it's the total package that you are being paid for doing your work so add them up. |  
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		|  02-06-2009, 06:58 PM | #13 |  
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				 | Health ins. Enough money to at least get by. And satisfaction. I'm the kind of guy who has to produce a product. And I have to be happy with it. Pushing paper is my hell. |  
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