do the math on this one..

[BassDawg]

funny stuff SeaDangles and thanks
for the clarification, i was certain that there
were two types of WR,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

i dunno, Chris, those "kinds of headaches" i'll take,
while most of it was self-induced, imho,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

i believe that it also has to do with the fact
that there were two anglers involved with Ole Albert's feesh.
also, 20# test, tied direct, for a 78.8# Striper seems miraculous, AT BEST!!

[Sea Dangles]

BD, if you want miraculous then try 56lb. 14oz. on 6lb. test by Landon at Gay Head in 'Oct '81. More recently we have a 50lb 9oz. specimen caught on 2 lb. test in VA. on Dec 30 '07.Even Crazy Alberto claimed to have caught a 45lb. 5 oz. lunker on 8 lb. test with a plug no less. All of these catches make MacReynolds tale easier to swallow IMO.

[wetsuit'nmtk]

bravo on the release that is one mother of slob

[BassDawg]

SD, i hear ya about the verified records and some anglers
specialize their catches in that manner. although that "style"
of fishing is NOT for me, as that is the epitome of machismo BS!!

i view McReynolds as more of a Ham&Egger, who
got VERRRRY lucky(right time/right place/i'm aware that a degree of LUCK is
part and parcel to ALL big catches) and who's catch will ALWAYS be tainted, imho,
from the very second that his buddy grabbed his hoodie.

at that POINT in the fight it was no longer man vs fish;
but it became 2 men vs 1 striper. don't get me wrong, i
don't think that his buddy shouldn't have saved him,
it's just that, in my view, at that crossroads in the battle
MoSaxxy won the fight!!!

i never, EVER, would proclaim that fish to be the World Record.
Cinto's Striper is the WR i acknowledge; but, the good part of seeing
a COW of that size down at the OBX is this~~~

SHE'LL be 90#'s or better this FALL and hopefully~~~
"she'll be coming around my preferred lie when SHE comes!!"

[gfishermanMTKPT]

holy crap! just to know the possibility that she's out there.i'mma comin for ya!congrats on your catch.insane!

[BassDawg]

Originally Posted by gfishermanMTKPT

holy crap! just to know the possibility that she's out there.i'mma comin for ya!congrats on your catch.insane!

and SHE'S not alone, gents!!!

however, please correct me if i'm WRONG, but
doesn't the latest science now state that the
BEST breeders are those girls in the 25#-35# class?

doesn't the fecundity ratio greatly diminish the older the BIG GALS get?
while it IS true that they drop more eggs; is it also true that their eggs
aren't as fertile as the fewer eggs that the younger gurls drop?

still trying to figure out this whole "best breeders of the species" science?

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by BassDawg

and SHE'S not alone, gents!!!

however, please correct me if i'm WRONG, but
doesn't the latest science now state that the
BEST breeders are those girls in the 25#-35# class?

doesn't the fecundity ratio greatly diminish the older the BIG GALS get?
while it IS true that they drop more eggs; is it also true that their eggs
aren't as fertile as the fewer eggs that the younger gurls drop?

still trying to figure out this whole "best breeders of the species" science?

OK, you asked.
This was all hashed out last year http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ight=fecundity. You clearly didn't believe it then, and apparently still don't want to believe it. Fecundity, egg quality, genetic quality, and population breeding success all improve with older fish. Here is one of many references again. Why not read it, Bass Dawg, and hopefully stop spreading a misleading myth that rationalizes killing the most valuable fish in the population? If the whole thing is too detailed, scroll 1/2 way through to the subtitle regarding age and fecundity. http://hmsc.oregonstate.edu/HsO/PDF/...0Fisheries.pdf . Thanks

PS Here's another http://www.science.calwater.ca.gov/p..._fecundity.pdf

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by BassDawg

SD, i hear ya about the verified records and some anglers
specialize their catches in that manner. although that "style"
of fishing is NOT for me, as that is the epitome of machismo BS!!

i view McReynolds as more of a Ham&Egger, who
got VERRRRY lucky(right time/right place/i'm aware that a degree of LUCK is
part and parcel to ALL big catches) and who's catch will ALWAYS be tainted, imho,
from the very second that his buddy grabbed his hoodie.

at that POINT in the fight it was no longer man vs fish;
but it became 2 men vs 1 striper. don't get me wrong, i
don't think that his buddy shouldn't have saved him,
it's just that, in my view, at that crossroads in the battle
MoSaxxy won the fight!!!

i never, EVER, would proclaim that fish to be the World Record.
Cinto's Striper is the WR i acknowledge; but, the good part of seeing
a COW of that size down at the OBX is this~~~

SHE'LL be 90#'s or better this FALL and hopefully~~~
"she'll be coming around my preferred lie when SHE comes!!"

McReynolds was far from a ham and egger. He was known as a competent fisherman in the Atlantic City area and always placed high in the various club tournaments down there.

There are at least 5 confirmed, legit catches (even if YOU don't consider McReynolds to be legit) as big or bigger than Cinto's. Cinto's fish was never a world record, and was never submitted for one because it was caught illegally under IGFA rules--on wire line. It was also caught on a lure with multiple treble hooks, which also made it illegal under IGFA rules at the time. Charlie's a swell guy, and we all love him to pieces, but his fish isn't even a state record in Mass--it's a co-record with two other fish the same weight--Tony Stetzko's 73 from shore, and Charles Church's 73 from 1912. Bob Rochetta from NY has a 76, if you don't want to acknowledge McReynolds fish--in fact, that fish was the record that McReynolds broke.

[Nebe]

look how small Church's bass looks and its 73 lbs..

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by Nebe

look how small Church's bass looks and its 73 lbs..

yep, and you know his wife is a 6 footer
nice try though

I commend them for releasing that fish and following the law. I'm sure there are others out there like her swimming around also.

[BassDawg]

Originally Posted by Mike P

McReynolds was far from a ham and egger. He was known as a competent fisherman in the Atlantic City area and always placed high in the various club tournaments down there.

There are at least 5 confirmed, legit catches (even if YOU don't consider McReynolds to be legit) as big or bigger than Cinto's. Cinto's fish was never a world record, and was never submitted for one because it was caught illegally under IGFA rules--on wire line. It was also caught on a lure with multiple treble hooks, which also made it illegal under IGFA rules at the time. Charlie's a swell guy, and we all love him to pieces, but his fish isn't even a state record in Mass--it's a co-record with two other fish the same weight--Tony Stetzko's 73 from shore, and Charles Church's 73 from 1912. Bob Rochetta from NY has a 76, if you don't want to acknowledge McReynolds fish--in fact, that fish was the record that McReynolds broke.

AMEN!

nice work, Mike, in setting the record straight.
i had forgotten about the Rochetta record at 76.
thank you for jogging my memory. Rochetta is tha man!!
not taking anything away from Charlie, who is amazing.

i also was not aware of McReynolds' success down south and
i will retract my statement of his ham&eggedness; however,
i still think that he made a "bad call" to submit that particular
fish for an IGFA ruling ~~especially so, since he knew better than
anyone how it ALL went down,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,very suspect, imho.

that 85.56#'er above just confirms that there ARE sum
MONSTERS out there, still kicking arse and taking names.

i mean if 85+ is being caught from a boat, then that bodes well for us surfrats, wouldn't ya say???

[likwid]

Originally Posted by BassDawg

SD, i hear ya about the verified records and some anglers
specialize their catches in that manner. although that "style"
of fishing is NOT for me, as that is the epitome of machismo BS!!

Machismo BS?

Take a good long look at the fly category records.
Some of those fish are pure SKILL.