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Grumpy Old Pharts Board Gerritol, Ex-Lax, Immodium, Bad Breath - all requirements for the Grumpy Board |
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02-17-2009, 04:49 PM
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Registered Grandpa
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: east coast
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
Give me back the America I love and once knew 
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Me too Slip, but we have a whole generation that doesn't know what America was really about.
When Moral Correctness was replaced by Political Correctness, that was the beginning of the end, imho.
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" Choose Life "
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02-17-2009, 04:54 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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There's plenty of that in the other generations also Dave, I'm afraid. 
but you are right, the morals have dropped off quite a bit.
The me generation and I want it now people have no understanding.
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02-17-2009, 06:22 PM
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
The me generation and I want it now people have no understanding.
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"Give me back the America I love and once knew"
Ain't nothin free. 
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Ski Quicks Hole
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02-17-2009, 06:44 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
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http://www.boston.com/business/techn...nymore/?page=1
The U.S. by far remains the world's leading manufacturer by value of goods produced. It hit a record $1.6 trillion in 2007 -- nearly double the $811 billion in 1987. For every $1 of value produced in China's factories, America generates $2.50.
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02-18-2009, 09:06 PM
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Registered Grandpa
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: east coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by likwid
"Give me back the America I love and once knew"
Ain't nothin free. 
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 But,no amount of $$ could ever bring back the America i knew.
It was based, among other things, on a Man's word was as good as his bond.
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" Choose Life "
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03-03-2009, 10:53 AM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
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On average they make $70 + and hr to work on an assembly line , I wouldn't call that even close to minimum wage, then there is all the retirees collecting ridiculous pensions !
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Ron that is a misconception that the big three management uses to explain away why they are doing so bad. They are lumping in the cost of all benefits health insurance, disability, unemployment, retirement costs of current, and past employees. Those guys on the line might be making about 25- 40 and hour. Do you think that is unreasonable? I sure don't.
Why is it ok for some people to make craploads of money, and not ok for others. Why is it ok for a doctor to make a ton of dough? Because he know how to fix you. Why can't a guy who knows how to build a car be paid well?
Here is something to chew on. For years Ford has been using aluminum body parts on cars and trucks. Hoods, tailgates, liftgates etc. They have known that the process they use to paint them doesn't work. Why have they not fixed this problem. It starts out with the paint bubbling, then it oxidizes, and you think great my truck is rusting. Only problem is the truck is only 4-7 years old. The warranty only covers "rust through" , no hole no warranty covered repair. $800 to repair and repaint. Do you think that is a good product?
I have no problem with someone getting paid good money, enough to support themselves and their families, for what they do. I have a problem with people making millions off of the backs of the worker bees.
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Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
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03-03-2009, 12:01 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSpecialist
Those guys on the line might be making about 25- 40 and hour. Do you think that is unreasonable? I sure don't.
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$52,000 - $83,000 a year to put the same fender on a car one after another on an assembly line......I do think that is a little unreasonable.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSpecialist
I have no problem with someone getting paid good money, enough to support themselves and their families, for what they do. I have a problem with people making millions off of the backs of the worker bees.
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I also agree with that too.....that is why the auto industry is in need of a makeover
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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02-17-2009, 05:14 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by justplugit
When Moral Correctness was replaced by Political Correctness, that was the beginning of the end, imho.
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an astute observation very adeptly put into words Dave
the only thing wrong with it....is
i wanted it ten seconds after Slipknot posted this thread 
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