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02-18-2009, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by likwid
You're blaming marketing for the downfall of personal responsibility?
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Its the corporate marketing machine, which is only one appendage of hyperconsumerism that I believe has constributed to the downfall of personal responsibility. So yes, i would blame marketers in as much as I would blame the consumer. Capitalism throughout the history of this country's founding has progressed through several stages. Currently, we are in a hyperconsumer phase of capitalism. This phase is characterized by overproduction. Concocted needs must accompany this brand of capitalism in order for it to triumph. After all, these puerile goods have to be sold. ENTER the marketing specialist who frame these products as something "the consumer can't do without", associating these products with abstract emotional anchors like love and freedom. Shopping as freedom; personal and (and more importantly) private. Simultaneously, these marketing ploys are increasingly calculating to play to the "kid" inside of us. The "kid" that does not make responsible choices, responsible consumer choices that is. The kid, liberated from the contraints of reason and deliberation that one comes to expect from adults. Examples abound. Hyperconsumerism cannot exist without the baby-fication of adults and many of todays marketers are building the nursery for their corporate sponsors herding the consumer infants and branding them.
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02-18-2009, 02:04 PM
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sick of bluefish
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Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44
Its the corporate marketing machine, which is only one appendage of hyperconsumerism that I believe has constributed to the downfall of personal responsibility. So yes, i would blame marketers in as much as I would blame the consumer. Capitalism throughout the history of this country's founding has progressed through several stages. Currently, we are in a hyperconsumer phase of capitalism. This phase is characterized by overproduction. Concocted needs must accompany this brand of capitalism in order for it to triumph. After all, these puerile goods have to be sold. ENTER the marketing specialist who frame these products as something "the consumer can't do without", associating these products with abstract emotional anchors like love and freedom. Shopping as freedom; personal and (and more importantly) private. Simultaneously, these marketing ploys are increasingly calculating to play to the "kid" inside of us. The "kid" that does not make responsible choices, responsible consumer choices that is. The kid, liberated from the contraints of reason and deliberation that one comes to expect from adults. Examples abound. Hyperconsumerism cannot exist without the baby-fication of adults and many of todays marketers are building the nursery for their corporate sponsors herding the consumer infants and branding them.
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So who is at fault, Eve or the devil that talked her into the apple?
Eve had free will. So do consumers.
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02-18-2009, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
So who is at fault, Eve or the devil that talked her into the apple?
Eve had free will. So do consumers.
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its the serpents fault, for he is the trusted misleader.
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02-18-2009, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
So who is at fault, Eve or the devil that talked her into the apple?
Eve had free will. So do consumers.
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Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44
its the serpents fault, for he is the trusted misleader.
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Your both Wrong...Its all Adams Fault for thinking with theWrong Head.....and we've been paying for it ever since.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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02-18-2009, 02:13 PM
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lobster = striper bait
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44
Simultaneously, these marketing ploys are increasingly calculating to play to the "kid" inside of us. The "kid" that does not make responsible choices, responsible consumer choices that is. The kid, liberated from the contraints of reason and deliberation that one comes to expect from adults. Examples abound. Hyperconsumerism cannot exist without the baby-fication of adults and many of todays marketers are building the nursery for their corporate sponsors herding the consumer infants and branding them.
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So you're blaming your inner child for having an inability to correctly budget yourself?
You're grounded. No internet or tv for a month.
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Ski Quicks Hole
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02-18-2009, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by likwid
No internet or tv for a month.
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Or rather, no MTV, BET.....and definitely no Fox News.
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02-18-2009, 02:32 PM
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[QUOTE=likwid;665996]So you're blaming your inner child for having an inability to correctly budget yourself[QUOTE]
I run a financial literacy & budgeting work shops for poor kids throughout this city. I'm teaching others to restrain their child like impulses in face of consumer capitalisms marketing onslaught. The vast majority of children dont think long term, marketers know this and thus seek, and have been very succesfull, making children out of adults.
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02-18-2009, 03:15 PM
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sick of bluefish
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[QUOTE=EarnedStripes44;666000][QUOTE=likwid;665996]So you're blaming your inner child for having an inability to correctly budget yourself
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I run a financial literacy & budgeting work shops for poor kids throughout this city. I'm teaching others to restrain their child like impulses in face of consumer capitalisms marketing onslaught. The vast majority of children dont think long term, marketers know this and thus seek, and have been very succesfull, making children out of adults.
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if adults thought long term, you have about 1/2 the worlds population
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