Live Broadcast of Steve McKenna's Presentation at the SWE

[Sweetwater]

Originally Posted by fishaholic18

Are you kidding??? It was in complete detail...from driving directions to which rock to cast to... I feel real bad for the guys that fish those spots...It'll be a zooooooo.........for sure... I've seen it many times...

He was very specific, but Steve's been giving these presentations for years as well as being published in various magazine. He said that he fishes the same spots himself and there's no one around. I get the concern though.

[Clammer]

I knew it has been too f $%^&*()_ quiet around here >..I thought it was the economy >><<><><,

[BassDawg]

Well Done by Steve and The Edge!!!

i thouroughly enjoyed the presentation from
the comfort of my pc monitor, further cementing
the Edge's "state of the art" position of this internet
explosion that has impacted the surfcasting community for BETTER and for sum worse!

which brings us to the alleged spot issues!!!

if anyone has earned the right to espouse about ANY of the waters
that he mentioned it IS Mr McKenna and others,,,,,,,,they know who they are.

in my view the places that he mentioned ARE very generic, they ARE written about and have been mentioned by other seminarians~~ quite extensively. i mean, if a kid from Tulsa(me) can "find out" about the very same spots he mentioned within my first 40 trips to the shore, then the grapevine isn't as secure as most might think!

granted his legacy notwithstanding, Steve is just sharing with others as he was also shared with,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and why not learn the generalities of certain selective areas from one our sport's masters? more improtantly i believe that Steve was using each particular location as a demonstration of technique which IS germaine to his presentation. that was the first time i "got it" about how to jig with current, and for that i am most grateful.

ROCKfish AWN, gents, and Thanks for the great show last night!!
also, what they did is very different from posting here or <ova there for ALL lurkers to see and get dialed into, permanently as opposed to a mere extension of a live presentation~~just some thoughts!

[Pete_G]

Just as an FYI, the broadcast was just that, a broadcast, and in reality it has ZERO difference from a presentation at a fishing show.

It was not recorded so it can not be re-broadcast or uploaded to YouTube, and end users/watchers were unable to record it.

As John mentioned above, forum posts that last forever and are easily Googled (or articles published in a magazine for that matter) are very different from a one time broadcast to a crowd no bigger then that at a fishing show.

One thing that has become clear a few years later after the infamous OTW article (for me anyways) was that a lot of us were too hard on Steve about it (myself included). I mostly fish Newport as it's where I live but I do cross the bridges and head East and when I do I rarely find any of the spots mentioned in the original article occupied after dark.

Apologies to those who took issue with the broadcast. We do understand your concern. While we had reservations knowing the history of the "spot" issue our feeling was that the one-time nature of it (and that the presentation in many ways was not new) it would not be an issue.

[fishaholic18]

Since I don't surf fish anymore...I guess it would be ok to give up all my spots.......maybe I'll do a seminar...I wouldn't do that to my fellow comrades...not my style...I have to much respect for the hard work we put in to find the holy grail that we all seek.....Been there done that... I guess some guys just won't get it.....until it hits them at home..

[woodghost]

Originally Posted by fishaholic18

Since I don't surf fish anymore...I guess it would be ok to give up all my spots.......maybe I'll do a seminar...I wouldn't do that to my fellow comrades...not my style...I have to much respect for the hard work we put in to find the holy grail that we all seek.....Been there done that... I guess some guys just won't get it.....until it hits them at home..

So i guess you've never heard of any good places to fish in newport!!! I think steve gets it...he fishes all over soco, I know he's not giving up his "secret" spots or the holy grail as you put it!
keep all the spots you've worked out to yourself, doesn't really matter to me! But for you to be riding high on your horse and to imply that you've never worked off information you gathered from other people in just....oh how to put it so you read it right.....BULL pucky!!!! Have you ever read anything about any of the spots you fish? Ever talk to a friend about a spot? I wish i was born with the knowledge to beable read a flow or to understand the effects of the tide in a rip, but i was not and had to learn for myself and with the help of others....INCLUDING Steve m. and the great guys at the edge.
Passing along the knowledge we aquire is crucial to our sport and we need to Help each other out! Jumping on a guy that has given his knowledge freely to new and seasoned anglers alike is just plain IGNORANT! As you stated you fish from a boat, so go and enjoy it and keep all your secret, holy grail spots to yourself and pray that no one ever finds them! Good luck! Just Be glad that no one has ever published secret places like the mudhole or cuttyhunk or sow and pigs! Maybe thats why I've never seen anyone out there...Cause there secret..Right! You know what..Its not worth it i have tail hooks to tie.....Good luck fish18
Ps.... Hi jay didn't see your giantness there lastnight!

[fishaholic18]

Originally Posted by woodghost

So i guess you've never heard of any good places to fish in newport!!! I think steve gets it...he fishes all over soco, I know he's not giving up his "secret" spots or the holy grail as you put it!
keep all the spots you've worked out to yourself, doesn't really matter to me! But for you to be riding high on your horse and to imply that you've never worked off information you gathered from other people in just....oh how to put it so you read it right.....BULL pucky!!!! Have you ever read anything about any of the spots you fish? Ever talk to a friend about a spot? I wish i was born with the knowledge to beable read a flow or to understand the effects of the tide in a rip, but i was not and had to learn for myself and with the help of others....INCLUDING Steve m. and the great guys at the edge.
Passing along the knowledge we aquire is crucial to our sport and we need to Help each other out! Jumping on a guy that has given his knowledge freely to new and seasoned anglers alike is just plain IGNORANT! As you stated you fish from a boat, so go and enjoy it and keep all your secret, holy grail spots to yourself and pray that no one ever finds them! Good luck! Just Be glad that no one has ever published secret places like the mudhole or cuttyhunk or sow and pigs or Frenchmans or the Bowling Alley or Anawan or Block Island, Snake hole, Black rock,Graicies cove, SE light, Catrock Cove, Capt. Freebody Dr. or Doris Duke or Naps or the Fenway or the Iron Gates or Fogland The Swimmin' Hole or the Garden,,,etc..etc..I could on all night! Maybe thats why I've never seen anyone out there...Cause there secret..Right! You know what..Its not worth it i have tail hooks to tie.....Good luck fish18 Thanx for that Bud
Ps.... Hi jay didn't see your giantness there lastnight!

[fishaholic18]

Originally Posted by BassDawg

Well Done by Steve and The Edge!!!

i thouroughly enjoyed the presentation from
the comfort of my pc monitor, further cementing
the Edge's "state of the art" position of this internet
explosion that has impacted the surfcasting community for BETTER and for sum worse!

which brings us to the alleged spot issues!!!

if anyone has earned the right to espouse about ANY of the waters
that he mentioned it IS Mr McKenna and others,,,,,,,,they know who they are.
I disagree...Who gave anyone more rights than the other guy...Publicity????

in my view the places that he mentioned ARE very generic, they ARE written about and have been mentioned by other seminarians~~ quite extensively. i mean, if a kid from Tulsa(me) can "find out" about the very same spots he mentioned within my first 40 trips to the shore, then the grapevine isn't as secure as most might think!
The locations may be "generic"..but the time, technique..etc..are not..Too much info..

granted his legacy notwithstanding, Steve is just sharing with others as he was also shared with,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and why not learn the generalities of certain selective areas from one our sport's masters? more improtantly i believe that Steve was using each particular location as a demonstration of technique which IS germaine to his presentation. that was the first time i "got it" about how to jig with current, and for that i am most grateful.
Master???? Are u kidding me???How are you designated Master?? Jigging current..or an other technique is common sense and trial and error..don't ya think?

ROCKfish AWN, gents, and Thanks for the great show last night!!
also, what they did is very different from posting here or <ova there for ALL lurkers to see and get dialed into, permanently as opposed to a mere extension of a live presentation~~just some thoughts!

Not picking on Steve..He seems like a good guy...Just the whole thing in general