And yeah, they do count - ya know, it's like sex, even when it's bad it's good...
Hey, it's good to see an old guy getting something tugged on, anyway...
"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.