Striper Cup - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

redlite · 03-18-2009, 06:30 PM

In. I don't plan to fish as hard this year but I say it every year. I'm sure once the time starts rollin closer, the wife will be bootin me out the door to "defend the title". Just hope to catch one large for a monthly winner and a shot at the truck. Last year took too much of a toll on me mentally and physically to keep goin night after night for so long.
We better have a team. I am proud to fish for our "club" and this great fishing community. I've been asked to fish for a couple of other teams this year but take pride in what we have here.
Lets retake the cup.

Circlehook · 03-18-2009, 06:39 PM

If we can win it this year, would 2 firsts and a second in three years make team S-B a dynasty?

I'm sure gonna give it hell this year.

snake slinger · 03-19-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by redlite

In. I don't plan to fish as hard this year but I say it every year. I'm sure once the time starts rollin closer, the wife will be bootin me out the door to "defend the title". Just hope to catch one large for a monthly winner and a shot at the truck. Last year took too much of a toll on me mentally and physically to keep goin night after night for so long.
We better have a team. I am proud to fish for our "club" and this great fishing community. I've been asked to fish for a couple of other teams this year but take pride in what we have here.
Lets retake the cup.

amen

angler229 · 03-19-2009, 02:09 PM

I just did a quick count and there were 370 fish over 30lbs weighed in during the striper cup last year. I'm going to guess, for every fish over 30lbs weighed in there was 2 under thirty weighed in so we can estimate that there were about 1150 fish weighed in. Now I'm guessing at least half of those fish would have been killed regardless, so that puts it 575 fish weighed in just because of the Striper Cup. In my mind this is just a drop in the bucket in terms of the kill of large fish, particularly for something that takes place over 5 months. And, looking at this in a purely scientific perspective the number of fish killed for this tournament is insignificant. I think there are far greater problems facing stripers than this tournament.

inTHERAPY · 03-19-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by angler229

I just did a quick count and there were 370 fish over 30lbs weighed in during the striper cup last year. I'm going to guess, for every fish over 30lbs weighed in there was 2 under thirty weighed in so we can estimate that there were about 1150 fish weighed in. Now I'm guessing at least half of those fish would have been killed regardless, so that puts it 575 fish weighed in just because of the Striper Cup. In my mind this is just a drop in the bucket in terms of the kill of large fish, particularly for something that takes place over 5 months. And, looking at this in a purely scientific perspective the number of fish killed for this tournament is insignificant. I think there are far greater problems facing stripers than this tournament.

Actually, here is a reply from OTW to one of the teams involved when the to kill or not kill discussion was going on:
"As far as numbers of bass weighed in each year, in 2006 under 550 fish were weighed. In 2007 & 2008, under 650 fish were weighed in each year. Keep in mind that this is over the coarse of a 5 month tournament with upwards of 3000 anglers involved each year.

Hope this helps clarify some things."

Don't you think more than 90% of those fish were going to die anyway. Art

angler229 · 03-19-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by inTHERAPY

Actually, here is a reply from OTW to one of the teams involved when the to kill or not kill discussion was going on:
"As far as numbers of bass weighed in each year, in 2006 under 550 fish were weighed. In 2007 & 2008, under 650 fish were weighed in each year. Keep in mind that this is over the coarse of a 5 month tournament with upwards of 3000 anglers involved each year.

Hope this helps clarify some things."

Don't you think more than 90% of those fish were going to die anyway. Art

Art thanks for the clarification, my numbers were just guesses assuming the worst scenarios. The actual actual numbers you provided, just further prove what I'm trying to say - That this tournament is just a drop in a bucket compared to the problems facing striped bass.

ThrowingTimber · 03-19-2009, 04:50 PM

IM IN!

Mike P · 03-19-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by angler229

I just did a quick count and there were 370 fish over 30lbs weighed in during the striper cup last year. I'm going to guess, for every fish over 30lbs weighed in there was 2 under thirty weighed in so we can estimate that there were about 1150 fish weighed in. Now I'm guessing at least half of those fish would have been killed regardless, so that puts it 575 fish weighed in just because of the Striper Cup. In my mind this is just a drop in the bucket in terms of the kill of large fish, particularly for something that takes place over 5 months. And, looking at this in a purely scientific perspective the number of fish killed for this tournament is insignificant. I think there are far greater problems facing stripers than this tournament.

There were more 30+ fish killed the last several years in one of those day-long pogie blitzes in NJ, the Great Gamefish State, then in all 3 Striper Cups combined. By far. Most of the guys fishing for the top clubs won't weigh in a fish under 30. No one with any savvy is going to think that they will win a weekly prize with a fish under 25 lbs so I think that your guesstimate of total fish weighed in is on the high side.

And many of the guys fishing for the top clubs are Mass pinhookers, so those fish are dead anyway.

inTHERAPY · 03-19-2009, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

There were more 30+ fish killed the last several years in one of those day-long pogie blitzes in NJ, the Great Gamefish State, then in all 3 Striper Cups combined. By far. Most of the guys fishing for the top clubs won't weigh in a fish under 30. No one with any savvy is going to think that they will win a weekly prize with a fish under 25 lbs so I think that your guesstimate of total fish weighed in is on the high side.

And many of the guys fishing for the top clubs are Mass pinhookers, so those fish are dead anyway.

BINGO

WoodyCT · 03-25-2009, 08:27 PM

Disturbing how folks use the behavior of other's to justify their own.

The NJ bunker dunkers and Mass pinhookers may kill far more bass than the Striper Cup does, but will that offer any solace when the stocks are pushed too far and collapse?

It won't matter who killed the most when we can't fish for them anymore.

Jon

Mike P · 03-26-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WoodyCT

Disturbing how folks use the behavior of other's to justify their own.

The NJ bunker dunkers and Mass pinhookers may kill far more bass than the Striper Cup does, but will that offer any solace when the stocks are pushed too far and collapse?

It won't matter who killed the most when we can't fish for them anymore.

Jon

I have seen no evidence that the sky is falling. Just MHO.

Above average spawns in 2001, 2003, 2005 and 2007, and bear in mind that the record spawns of the 90s raised what was considered an average spawn from 8.0 to 12.0.

http://dnr.maryland.gov/dnrnews/pres...7/100407c.html

My own fishing experience also tells me that the stocks are a long way from crashing.