Arrogant A-hole

[spence]

Originally Posted by fishbones

Spence, I always give you a lot of credit for being intelligent and for thinking things out before posting., But that last comment was not only in poor taste, but it was ignorant and stupid.

I guess you don't have anyone in your family with a disability. Start thinking before you speak.

Not really ignorant or stupid. In general funding and assistance for the developmentally disabled goes up under Democratic leadership and down under Republican leadership. Does this mean that all Republicans are heartless bastards? No, it certainly doesn't...

But my wife has worked with the mentally disabled all of her life. Most in her profession fear what Republican leadership tends to bring to their industry. It's about the money and the attidide.

To be fair I'll amend my post to add a "many of whom"...

-spence

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by spence

Not really ignorant or stupid. In general funding and assistance for the developmentally disabled goes up under Democratic leadership and down under Republican leadership. Does this mean that all Republicans are heartless bastards? No, it certainly doesn't...

But my wife has worked with the mentally disabled all of her life. Most in her profession fear what Republican leadership tends to bring to their industry. It's about the money and the attidide.

To be fair I'll amend my post to add a "many of whom"...

-spence

Spence, your original comment was BOTH stupid and ignorant. I know very well and have worked with people who are developmentally disabled. Lucky for you that no one in your family has had to deal with it and you can make your idiotic comments and then say "I should add 'many of whom'". If you spent time around people with disabilities (and no, being married to someone who does, doesn't count) and worked with charities that support them, you'd see as many Republicans, if not more than you would Democrats. Get your head out of your ass and think before you speak.

As for funding, check you're facts. You might learn something.

[EarnedStripes44]

Originally Posted by fishbones

Spence, your originalIf you spent time around people with disabilities (and no, being married to someone who does, doesn't count) and worked with charities that support them, you'd see as many Republicans, if not more than you would Democrats.

Are you referring to the prison guards at Rikers Island. Its the largest mental health facility in the country...except that its a penal colony.

[spence]

Originally Posted by fishbones

Spence, your original comment was BOTH stupid and ignorant. I know very well and have worked with people who are developmentally disabled. Lucky for you that no one in your family has had to deal with it and you can make your idiotic comments and then say "I should add 'many of whom'". If you spent time around people with disabilities (and no, being married to someone who does, doesn't count) and worked with charities that support them, you'd see as many Republicans, if not more than you would Democrats. Get your head out of your ass and think before you speak.

As for funding, check you're facts. You might learn something.

I see I've struck a chord here, but I think you're taking my comment personally instead of looking at the irony I was intending to point out. If you have data that suggests Republican politicians have been championing the needs of the mentally disabled, I'd like to see it.

As for my head, it's planted firmly on my neck where it's always been.

-spence

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by spence

I see I've struck a chord here, but I think you're taking my comment personally instead of looking at the irony I was intending to point out. If you have data that suggests Republican politicians have been championing the needs of the mentally disabled, I'd like to see it.

As for my head, it's planted firmly on my neck where it's always been.

-spence

Spence, your irony is misplaced. As for data, I'll give you some. Although when I call you out on things, you usually neither provide data nor respond. Check out The Special Olympics Sport Empowerment Act of 2004 and see who the sponsors of the bill were. Also check out John McCain's track record of working with people with disabilities.

[spence]

Originally Posted by fishbones

Spence, your irony is misplaced. As for data, I'll give you some. Although when I call you out on things, you usually neither provide data nor respond. Check out The Special Olympics Sport Empowerment Act of 2004 and see who the sponsors of the bill were. Also check out John McCain's track record of working with people with disabilities.

I'd note that McCain (a good man, until he won the primary), by most measures, isn't even considered a member of the right wing.

If you're going to argue that the political elite ideologues and punditry who define the "Right" and drive the party platform are the vanguard of the mentally disabled then perhaps I've been watching a different channel.

Ok, perhaps my use of irony was overly sardonic for your tastes, which is fine, but to insult my wife's bona fides or assume (god forbid) that my post slipped through QA, all because of a little sarcasm, is a bit lame.

-spence

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by spence

I'd note that McCain (a good man, until he won the primary), by most measures, isn't even considered a member of the right wing.

If you're going to argue that the political elite ideologues and punditry who define the "Right" and drive the party platform are the vanguard of the mentally disabled then perhaps I've been watching a different channel.

Ok, perhaps my use of irony was overly sardonic for your tastes, which is fine, but to insult my wife's bona fides or assume (god forbid) that my post slipped through QA, all because of a little sarcasm, is a bit lame.

-spence

Thanks for clearing things up, Spence. I forgot that you like to change up your argument mid-discussion if the facts don't support it to fit the point you're trying to prove.

When you said Republican, I gave you an example of a Republican (McCain). I should have known that you only meant "right wing" Republicans. Please forgive me for not being able to read your mind.

Your wifes bona fides were never questioned by me. Sorry if you misinterpreted when I actually questioned you (and was pretty clear that it was you I was questioning). I'm sure your wife is very qualified just as any other employee who works in that field to have an opinion about politics.

By the way, did you read the SOSEA?

[spence]

Originally Posted by fishbones

Thanks for clearing things up, Spence. I forgot that you like to change up your argument mid-discussion if the facts don't support it to fit the point you're trying to prove.

No, not at all.

My initial comment was calling out the "Right" as in the idiological leadership of the Right Wing, then asserted that there was a generalized policy difference that stemmed from this.

In an act of good faith I attempted to qualify my perhaps open ended sarcastic comment, but you seem to take this as an act of inconsistency.

If I have in any way led you to believe that I don't actually find irony in the intial post, then I'm deeply sorry for attempting to be reasonable. Perhaps I should have just told you to jam it and went offline?

Ultimately though, I find an argument about irony to be very ironic, don't you

If I was wrong about anything, it was assuming all the outrage would come from the Right, when in fact the outrage came from all sides.

Oh, and as for SOSEA, please enlighten us.

-spence

[slapshot]

Originally Posted by spence

If you have data that suggests Republican politicians have been championing the needs of the mentally disabled, I'd like to see it.

-spence

Haven't been in here much lately, but Sarah Palin ran as an advocate for families with special needs.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by slapshot

Haven't been in here much lately, but Sarah Palin ran as an advocate for families with special needs.

yes, but the open minded left labeled her as a white trash moron so she doesnt count.

[bssb]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

yes, but the open minded left labeled her as a white trash moron so she doesnt count.

she is a white trash moron

along with most of the party

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

But my wife has worked with the mentally disabled all of her life.


-spence

I'll agree with that !

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

I'll agree with that !

Ok, that was pretty good

-spence