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04-03-2009, 10:24 AM
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I bet you also think the Democrats are responsible for the Holocaust and 9/11.
Someone should develop a help group for the Ignorant.
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04-03-2009, 10:41 AM
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that's not very nice
this is excellent, you should read it : you see Obama's agenda is not much different than Chavez's....the results are clearly disasterous but the Obamorons who think Mc Cain is vice-president because he came in second also believe the messiah can somehow cause a different outcome from those that have tried before and failed because he is "SMARTER".... at least when the teleprompter is telling him what to say
April 03, 2009
Krauthammer on Obama's real agenda
Rick Moran
Another stellar piece from Charles Krauthammer who rightly points out that the auto industry bailouts and financial mess are only sideshows for our president. Obama's true agenda cuts to the heart of the American experiment in government:
Obama has far different ambitions. His goal is to rewrite the American social compact, to recast the relationship between government and citizen. He wants government to narrow the nation's income and anxiety gaps. Soak the rich for reasons of revenue and justice. Nationalize health care and federalize education to grant all citizens of all classes the freedom from anxiety about health care and college that the rich enjoy. And fund this vast new social safety net through the cash cow of a disguised carbon tax.
Obama is a leveler. He has come to narrow the divide between rich and poor. For him the ultimate social value is fairness. Imposing it upon the American social order is his mission.
Fairness through leveling is the essence of Obamaism. (Asked by Charlie Gibson during a campaign debate about his support for raising capital gains taxes -- even if they caused a net revenue loss to the government -- Obama stuck to the tax hike "for purposes of fairness.") The elements are highly progressive taxation, federalized health care and higher education, and revenue-producing energy controls. But first he must deal with the sideshows. They could sink the economy and poison his public support before he gets to enact his real agenda.
Charles believes that Obama will actually come to regret his deep intervention into the auto business. What is likely to emerge from all the maneuvering is a car industry that will get everyone mad at him - consumers, labor, and bondholders.
But this pales in comparison to Obama's real purposes:
Bizarre and constitutionally suspect as these interventions may be, the transformation of the American system will come from elsewhere. The credit crisis will pass and the auto overcapacity will sort itself out one way or the other. The reordering of the American system will come not from these temporary interventions, into which Obama has reluctantly waded. It will come from Obama's real agenda: his holy trinity of health care, education and energy. Out of these will come a radical extension of the welfare state; social and economic leveling in the name of fairness; and a massive increase in the size, scope and reach of government.
If Obama has his way, the change that is coming is a new America: "fair," leveled and social democratic. Obama didn't get elected to warranty your muffler. He's here to warranty your life.
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04-04-2009, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
Soak the rich for reasons of revenue and justice. Nationalize health care and federalize education to grant all citizens of all classes the freedom from anxiety about health care and college that the rich enjoy...
Obama is a leveler. He has come to narrow the divide between rich and poor. For him the ultimate social value is fairness. Imposing it upon the American social order is his mission...
Fairness through leveling is the essence of Obamaism.
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Yeah, sounds like Obama read all of that crap those old idiots wrote about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...and justice for all...and all men actually being created equal...I mean, give me a break, will you
Who wrote all that garbage, anyway...
Nobody believes they actually meant that crap, do they...
I mean, you know, nobody that's really smart takes all that seriously...
Or for that matter, no one who's really wealthy...

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04-03-2009, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
I bet you also think the Democrats are responsible for the Holocaust and 9/11.
Someone should develop a help group for the Ignorant.
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I know a lot of people that think Bush is to blame for 9/11 
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04-03-2009, 03:17 PM
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Imho, Charles Krauthammer has a pretty good grasp on most things, is reasonable,
and in this case he's right on.
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" Choose Life "
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04-03-2009, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by justplugit
Imho, Charles Krauthammer has a pretty good grasp on most things, is reasonable,
and in this case he's right on.
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Is reasonable? Are you sure you're thinking of the right person?
Sure he makes some sense now and then but he's as paranoid as they get. Another talking head who's out to show they're right today regardless of what they said last week.
-spence
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04-03-2009, 07:12 PM
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Geez Spence, your painting the man with a pretty wide brush.
Diagnosing him as paranoid?
Pulitzer Prize Winner a talking head?
Right today regardless of what he said last week?
Guess i don't know him that well or listen to him that much to make those kind of judgements.
In all sincerity, I'm always open to learning, fill me in on more, especially about his flip flopping.
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04-04-2009, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by justplugit
Geez Spence, your painting the man with a pretty wide brush.
Diagnosing him as paranoid?
Pulitzer Prize Winner a talking head?
Right today regardless of what he said last week?
Guess i don't know him that well or listen to him that much to make those kind of judgements.
In all sincerity, I'm always open to learning, fill me in on more, especially about his flip flopping.
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Well, I'm not a doctor so I can't make a formal diagnosis but he sure seems paranoid to me
He's a very smart guy so most of it sounds great, but on FOX there's never any rebuttal when he makes statements as fact that are really opinion, or makes outlandishly hawkish statements.
The other day he said something I found really wacky about GITMO or detainees or something...I'll see if I can find it.
-spence
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04-04-2009, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
He's a very smart guy so most of it sounds great
The other day he said something I found really wacky about GITMO or detainees or something...I'll see if I can find it.
-spence
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Ya Krauthammer smart, Harvard grad like Barach, i believe, in addition though,
MD, journalist, columnist and been around Washinton a long time.
Smart doesn't mean much to me unless it's tempered with experience and wisdom.
From what I've seen of him, Krauthammer seems like he has both.
Look forward to hearing about his wacky statements, ya keep me learnin. 
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04-05-2009, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Well, I'm not a doctor so I can't make a formal diagnosis but he sure seems paranoid to me
He's a very smart guy so most of it sounds great, but on FOX there's never any rebuttal when he makes statements as fact that are really opinion, or makes outlandishly hawkish statements.
The other day he said something I found really wacky about GITMO or detainees or something...I'll see if I can find it.
-spence
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what he means to say Justplugit is that you just caught him in yet another of his mindless defenses of the "ONE" ......"Well, the other day, ahhhh....something outlandish...Gitmo, Haliburton, Cheney, Fox, Vast Right Wing Hatemonger, hawkish racist, Bush Bush Bush, E-V-I-L, rush to war, BIG OIL, Diebold"..... 
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04-03-2009, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
I know a lot of people that think Bush is to blame for 9/11 
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People are idiots.
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