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04-11-2009, 01:25 PM
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Also known as OAK
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Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman
Western flagged ships are paying ransoms...this is the problem...it's wrong..Just Kill the pirates and never pay ransom again. Try not to kill a US citizen but If someone dies on the process that is the cost we have to bear.
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Are you going to go to Vermont and tell the wife and family of the Capt. that this is what had to be done and it's the cost to bear Jim?
I think it is a tricky situation; the Capt is not a soldier, but did volunteer to save his crew, so what liberty does the navy have with his life? The report was he tried to swim, but couldn't get far enough away and the pirates fired on him in the water so he swam back. Maybe thats the argument the navy should have been closer, I don't know.
My solution, tonight, send in a seal, drill a small hole in the bottom. Start sinking the lifeboat and see what happens. it's a long 300mile swim for the pirates...
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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04-11-2009, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
I think it is a tricky situation; the Capt is not a soldier, but did volunteer to save his crew, so what liberty does the navy have with his life? The report was he tried to swim, but couldn't get far enough away and the pirates fired on him in the water so he swam back.
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Bryan, we should blow that boat out of the water.
After all, it's not like they're going anywhere as they have no gas.
The longer we wait to take action the longer the Captain will still be alive. The US Navy has to be just itching to blow the Captain up, he did surrender after all, and his weakness has probably emboldened the terrorists. I read on newsmax.com that they're in communication with Bin Laden, and they have one of Saddam's fingers in a little box that they worship.
Obama should have known this was going to happen and should have had a destroyer escort for that ship before the pirate attack. At least he could have used his super powers and taken back the ship personally, but no, all he's done is send in the US Navy and FBI. Like what are they going to be able to do about the situation that Obama can't?
This entire situation wouldn't even be happening had we not elected Obama in the first place. That sent a signal to the entire world that taking from others is ok.
Obama is probally going to give the pirates first class tickets to new homes in Ohio where they can find real work. After all, it's not their fault they are pirates. It was the social situation that forced them into piracy. Had Clinton not left those Somalis would probably have WIFI and 401K's.
-spence
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04-11-2009, 01:58 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
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Originally Posted by spence
Bryan, we should blow that boat out of the water.
After all, it's not like they're going anywhere as they have no gas.
The longer we wait to take action the longer the Captain will still be alive. The US Navy has to be just itching to blow the Captain up, he did surrender after all, and his weakness has probably emboldened the terrorists. I read on newsmax.com that they're in communication with Bin Laden, and they have one of Saddam's fingers in a little box that they worship.
Obama should have known this was going to happen and should have had a destroyer escort for that ship before the pirate attack. At least he could have used his super powers and taken back the ship personally, but no, all he's done is send in the US Navy and FBI. Like what are they going to be able to do about the situation that Obama can't?
This entire situation wouldn't even be happening had we not elected Obama in the first place. That sent a signal to the entire world that taking from others is ok.
Obama is probally going to give the pirates first class tickets to new homes in Ohio where they can find real work. After all, it's not their fault they are pirates. It was the social situation that forced them into piracy. Had Clinton not left those Somalis would probably have WIFI and 401K's.
-spence
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spence,
What'd you make that post for? Now the Right-Wingers don't have anything new to say.
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Originally Posted by justplugit
Problem is it's a covered life boat.
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Thanks, I didn't know that.
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04-11-2009, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
spence,
What'd you make that post for? Now the Right-Wingers don't have anything new to say.
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Johnny, think about all the gas.
Had Obama not made the USA look like such a whimp, by challenging the EU to not just blame America (yea, right), we wouldn't need the US Navy and could save hundreds of Billions of dollars in defense spending every year.
We would be energy independent and the war against terrorism, the defining moment of our time, would be won. Islam wouldn't last long.
This would free up tremendous Federal resources to eliminate the real threats to my freedom. Gay love and an abundance of coal.
-spence
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04-16-2009, 11:01 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
spence,
What'd you make that post for? Now the Right-Wingers don't have anything new to say.
Thanks, I didn't know that.
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Johnny D-Leave Spence alone, look at all the hooligans he is giving something legitimate to do today. They might all be partaking in a tax protest today for the benifit of CNN 's ratings.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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04-16-2009, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Swimmer
Johnny D-Leave Spence alone, look at all the hooligans he is giving something legitimate to do today. They might all be partaking in a tax protest today for the benifit of CNN 's ratings.
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For three days now, these "tea parties" are the only thing I've seen on FoxNews.
CNN, MSNBC, Fox... they're all pathetic.
And what's the deal with that one woman on the Headline news channel that has been reporting about "Missing tot" and "Tot's mom" for 6 months now?? I've never seen her report about anything else.
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04-12-2009, 09:02 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Originally Posted by spence
O At least he could have used his super powers and taken back the ship personally, but no, all he's done is send in the US Navy and FBI. Like what are they going to be able to do about the situation that Obama can't?
-spence
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I forgot about his super powers... thats why I voted for him 
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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