Outrageous

[spence]

Originally Posted by fishbones

Spence, I thought our President was bi-racial. Since he was born to a white mother and a black father, wouldn't he be just as much white as black? Or you could just refer to him as an American, as I do. I guess some superficial people see the need to point out a persons race.

By superficial I'm assuming you're talking about racist hate groups?

-spence

[spence]

Interesting...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123992665198727459.html

The documents outlining Operation Vigilant Eagle cite a surge in activity by such groups. The memos say the FBI's focus on veterans began as far back as December, during the final weeks of the Bush administration, when the bureau's domestic counterterrorism division formed a special joint working group with the Defense Department.

Who would have thought that Bush hated veterans as well?

-spence

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by spence

By superficial I'm assuming you're talking about racist hate groups?

-spence

If you read your post, you refer to Obama as "black". That's pointing out his race. As for racial hate groups, I know you'd never join one. Their uniforms are definitely not stylish enough for you.

[spence]

Originally Posted by fishbones

If you read your post, you refer to Obama as "black". That's pointing out his race.

Black is also a color (or technically the absence of color) as well as a racial description. I'd wager that most racial hate groups don't think of Obama as any less black because he's bi-racial. Actually they probably think it's a bigger obamanation

I guess we could ignore the fact that he has black skin, and that it's significant, and that people hate him for it. But I'm sure you're just being silly anyway.

As for racial hate groups, I know you'd never join one. Their uniforms are definitely not stylish enough for you.

I was fortunate to grow up in a household with no bigotry, or about as close as you can get. As for hate groups, they tend to dress alike which doesn't fit with my flair for individuality.

-spence

[Nebe]

white is the absense of color.. Black is total color saturation.

Originally Posted by spence

Black is also a color (or technically the absence of color) as well as a racial description. I'd wager that most racial hate groups don't think of Obama as any less black because he's bi-racial. Actually they probably think it's a bigger obamanation

I guess we could ignore the fact that he has black skin, and that it's significant, and that people hate him for it. But I'm sure you're just being silly anyway.


I was fortunate to grow up in a household with no bigotry, or about as close as you can get. As for hate groups, they tend to dress alike which doesn't fit with my flair for individuality.

-spence

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[spence]

Originally Posted by Nebe

white is the absense of color.. Black is total color saturation.

Nope, think about the color temperatures and not the reflected properties.

-spence

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

Nope, think about the color temperatures and not the reflected properties.

-spence

I'm going with Nebe. I'd much rather believe the gay Artist than the Fashionista.

I think what I saw on the Today show (think it was Today) with Napolitano was dumb. Unimpressed.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I'm going with Nebe. I'd much rather believe the gay Artist than the Fashionista.

Actually I have a BFA as well

-spence

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by spence

Black is also a color (or technically the absence of color) as well as a racial description. I'd wager that most racial hate groups don't think of Obama as any less black because he's bi-racial. Actually they probably think it's a bigger obamanation

I guess we could ignore the fact that he has black skin, and that it's significant, and that people hate him for it. But I'm sure you're just being silly anyway.


I was fortunate to grow up in a household with no bigotry, or about as close as you can get. As for hate groups, they tend to dress alike which doesn't fit with my flair for individuality.

-spence

You're right, I was just having a little fun with you. I would never put you in the same class as those idiots.
As for this whole flap with the veterans, I'm sure it was just a poor choice of words which she now deeply regrets. If every politician had to resign when they made a stupid and/or insensitive comment about a group of people, we'd have very few left to run the country. Wait, maybe I'm onto something...

[spence]

Originally Posted by fishbones

As for this whole flap with the veterans, I'm sure it was just a poor choice of words which she now deeply regrets.

I read most of the actual document and don't have many issues with the words. Context is very important here...

If the context was a Government pragmatically looking at individual factors that when combined could form a threat then it seems pretty reasonable.

If the context was an Liberal civil rights group trying to paint our troops as out of control killers, which some certainly do, then the report could be seen as anti-military and objectionable.

Considering it looks like the FBI initiatives behind this report span both Administrations, one could really question the objectivity of the Malkin piece that started this thread.

It does appear there was a debate internally as to why the report should be made public. Considering that Napolitano isn't seen as a partisan, I doubt this was a hit job, just perhaps clumsy.

-spence