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05-06-2009, 10:32 AM
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lobster = striper bait
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
i.e. the lack of cod and others increased the population of dogfish which is now creating a situation where cod can't compete w/ the increased dogfish....
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Cod are doomed on their own dogfish or no dogfish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_cod
(Anyone have the NMFS newsletter where they outright said cod are screwed? Does anyone here even get it?)
Off topic for a minute, why are we still fishing for something that has been labeled vulnerable? Does anyone else see the stupidity in that? I will happily say I'm a hypocrite in this sense, but it doesn't stop me from scratching my head.
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this is based on a talk and papers I read by a guy named 'RAM' (Ransom A Myers I think) who was a Canadian fisheries biologist (I think I heard he passed away)
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Can't tell from the Meyers Lab site, but its no longer updated (since 07)
Hey, you at least went and actually decided to research on your own instead of say, blaming other fish. 
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Ski Quicks Hole
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05-06-2009, 10:46 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
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Originally Posted by likwid
Off topic for a minute, why are we still fishing for something that has been labeled vulnerable?
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Money
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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05-06-2009, 10:54 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Rhode Island
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The most cost effective way to raise awareness about anything is to start a website. The single most empowering act for a person wishing to forward any agenda is to sign up for a Dreamweaver class at their local community college. I found having short runs of tees outsourced to be an impractical endeavor - your concern and willingness to make an effort is commendable.
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05-06-2009, 11:03 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Originally Posted by likwid
Hey, you at least went and actually decided to research on your own instead of say, blaming other fish. 
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1. "why are we still fishing for them?" I don't know, but the rape that went on this winter for a couple of weeks of boats RAILING cod south of Block this winter (Boats from NJ, NY, CT, MA, RI) made me sick. We were just starting to see some anecdotal increases in the late fall while blackfishing. buh-bye. Comm's and Rec's are to blame in this fishery...
2. I try never to 'spout off' and all the grief I took over the pogie debate in RI, I still sleep well b/c I wasn't drinking anyones kool-aid
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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05-06-2009, 11:56 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
1. "why are we still fishing for them?" I don't know, but the rape that went on this winter for a couple of weeks of boats RAILING cod south of Block this winter (Boats from NJ, NY, CT, MA, RI) made me sick. We were just starting to see some anecdotal increases in the late fall while blackfishing. buh-bye. Comm's and Rec's are to blame in this fishery...
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when to cod spawn??? 
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05-06-2009, 11:12 AM
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Fish Hound
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Shrewsbury, MA & Mashpee, MA
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Originally Posted by likwid
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love the wikipedia citation  if only my college professors let me site from there 
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"There are many things in life that will catch your eye, but only a few will catch your heart.....pursue those."
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05-06-2009, 11:55 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by likwid
Cod are doomed on their own dogfish or no dogfish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_cod
(Anyone have the NMFS newsletter where they outright said cod are screwed? Does anyone here even get it?)
Off topic for a minute, why are we still fishing for something that has been labeled vulnerable? Does anyone else see the stupidity in that? I will happily say I'm a hypocrite in this sense, but it doesn't stop me from scratching my head.
Can't tell from the Meyers Lab site, but its no longer updated (since 07)
Hey, you at least went and actually decided to research on your own instead of say, blaming other fish. 
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Ted, I took this qoute from the wikedpedia page-
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Several cod stocks collapsed in the 1990s (declined by >95% of maximum historical biomass) and have failed to recover even with the cessation of fishing.[3] This absence of the apex predator has led to a trophic cascade in many areas.[3] Many other cod stocks remain at risk.
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trophic cascade is when you remove one link of a food chain and it is filled in with more of the lower link.. When you remove the cod, dogfish or other stuff can move in and do 2 things- eat the food that the cod is trying to eat and also eat baby cod.
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