Obama seeks common ground?

[Cool Beans]

Its very clear that we live in 2 separate Americas.

Comrade Spence, I sincerely hope that one day before the end, you see the light.

Apparently when you voted for change, you knew exactly where this was going and are all for it. I for one will not live in a Socialist Republic. It won't be long before some of the states (most of the midwest and west not counting the coast) decide they have had enough.

Spence Alynski fits you. Good night Comrade, I'm not going to bang my head against the brick wall, trying to explain what America was and should be. You will never ever agree.

[striperman36]

I am with Spence. Bring the moderate majority back and the radicals will lose their base.

Oh and it's Koran not Quran or what it was ya thought it might be when you copied that stuff from some other website

[scottw]

[QUOTE=striperman36;692133]I am with Spence. Bring the moderate majority back and the radicals will lose their base.

HOW???? if the moderates are a majority, according to Spence a huge majority compared to the tiny, tiny intsy wintsy minority of radicals...how is it that the "majority" occupy such a minority position in this culture? is this a marketing or perception problem?...look around the world....have you looked at the constant unrest in Europe??? these countries have bent over backward to be accomodating, tolerant and inviting and continue to be and look at the result...I hold no bias, bigotry or "hate" toward anyone, I'm simply pointing to what is right in front of your eyes....seems to me the moderate majorities around the world have a very difficult time standing up for themselves in any way, are Obama's words going to somehow empower these majorities to sieze control of his...I mean the muslim faith? The judement of the effectiveness of the "speech of the century" will be what, if any CHANGE it produces...history is not in his favor...let's hope it was productive for Israel's sake...

[Cool Beans]

Spence, you are right Obama's speech was very good, he somehow managed to talk out of both sides of his face at the same time. He said what people wanted to hear, somehow thinking they would not see the way he also said what the other guy wants to hear. Does he think Israelis are stupid? They see right through his double speak. He is a very eloquent kiss ass, how can he possibly come through or believe that its all possible. It's ok if everyone has nuclear power, but somehow nobody should have nuclear weapons? You can't have one without the other..

There is no way we can please everyone.
This is 2009 right not 1969? If we believe in peace everyone will treat us peacefully? No they will do what they can to kick our ass.

In a single speech, he claimed to support Israel, while "bitch slapping" them on the settlements, and policies. It will hit the fan relatively soon over there.

I see Obama as a man who wants to cut off our "nuts" and put them on the table for all to see, while greeting everyone with a hug and a bow, somehow believing that mankind will "evolve beyond our desire to hate or harm each other" and magically create a "Star Trek" style utopia, where we do our jobs for the enjoyment and do not require monetary compensation, and we will no longer engage in trivial wars over borders or religion. I say "Bullsh*t".

And the guy at the quickie mart is a Hindu from India, most Arab Muslims would never do service type work for others, so he is perfectly safe.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

Its very clear that we live in 2 separate Americas.

This says it all...no retort necessary.

-spence

[striperman36]

RI and MA?

[spence]

That's the problem with cut 'n paste. As you don't really understand what you're talking about all you can do is resort to name calling.

-spence

[striperman36]

doooooohhhHH!!!!!!

[Backbeach Jake]

If you don't seek common ground there's only killing ground left. Obama did the right thing, he reached out. Let's see if they reach back. We aren't the ruler of them any more than they of us. Let's chose to work together for a change , a big change..
There are wonderoous things happening here, historical and world shaking for good. But only if both sides accept, don't be on the wrong side. And remember that you have to give to receive.

[scottw]

I think they went down this road in Lebanon, reach out, sharing and tolerance...hasn't worked out so well for the Lebanese Christians...

"Reaching back"

BEIRUT, LEBANON (BosNewsLife) -- Lebanon's Interior Minister resigned late Sunday, February 5, after an estimated 20,000 angry Muslims not only torched the Danish Embassy but also attacked the Christian community in the capital Beirut over published cartoons depicting the Prophet Mohammad.

Hassan al-Sabaa, a Sunni Muslim retired officer loyal to the country's anti-Syrian majority coalition, submitted his resignation at a late night government session to discuss the anti-Christian violence, in which one person was killed and dozens others were injured.

One demonstrator, among those who set the embassy on fire, was encircled by flames and died after jumping from the third floor, Reuters news agency quoted a senior security official as saying. 28 other demonstrators were reportedly injured in clashes with riot police.

Reporters said protesters attacked three fire engines at the embassy to stop them from extinguishing the blaze and hung up a banner at the building's entrance reading: "We are ready to sacrifice our children for you, O Prophet Mohammad."

Muslim Riots in Spain, Denmark, Greece, UK…
by sheikyermami on December 10, 2008

Reuters

Rioting immigrants set fire to cars, shops and rubbish containers in a town in southern Spain overnight after a Malian was stabbed to death while being mugged, police said on Monday.


A Civil Guard statement said Sega S., 24, was stabbed on Sunday night and died from his injuries early on Monday. Police arrested three Moroccans, one of them the suspected killer.

After the stabbing, a score of angry sub-Saharan immigrants gathered in La Mojonera, in southern Almeria province, and started fires in shops and rubbish bins.

* Copenhagen: 300 Muslims riot outside mall

* UK Muslim Prisoners riot to celebrate Muslim holiday

* Greek Riots in full ‘allahu akbar’ swing


Police in riot gear were deployed to quell the riot and arrested two men from Ivory Coast and one from Guinea Bissau.

There were similar riots in September in nearby Roquetas de Mar after a Senegalese man was stabbed to death when he tried to intervene in a dispute.


Obama mentioned all of the things that muslim culture has brought to the world....nothing in quite a few centuries however....seems like it's mostly mayhem lately....I don't argue that there are peaceful muslims but nearly all of the conflicts in the world involve muslims and their inability to live side by side with "other cultures"....their rap sheet is pretty long and there's no other "culture" engaged in this kind of constant rioting and violence worldwide, doesn't take much to piss em' off....wherever there is unrest...but Obama is a magician and I'm sure he knows exactly what he's doing...

here, let's try this...make a list of all of the peaceful democratic non-oppressive muslim countries...ok you should be done
now list the oppressive, violent, militaristic, lacking basic human rights muslim countries...I'll give you plenty of time...

now list the countries experiencing muslim immigration where things are going quite smoothly...done?
now list the countries accepting large numbers of muslim immigrants with constant violent outbreaks....jeopardy music

just pointing out the obvious....

hey, you could apply this right here at home

list the states that have been democrat policy testing grounds for the last 50 years that are doing well(relative to the other states in this economy)....done?
list the states that have resisted massive dependency on government and maintained some level of fiscal responsibility while others have gone the way of socialism that are doing well in this economy....that would be all of the states that Obama is now insisting follow the socilaism road that leaves the above mentioned crappy states taxing and feeing every aspect of their citizens lives to the point that they are driving out the folks that actually pay the bills....GENIUS....