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06-27-2009, 03:13 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Sturbridge MA
Posts: 3,127
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VMC 4x 3/0 breakage?
I caught a few fish on a northbar last weekend after the fling, nothing big. It was the first time i used it and rigged it myself with 4x 3/0 trebles. And when i went to snap it on this morning i noticed that one of the hooks broke off right at the shank. Apparently it happened last weekend. Has anyone else had this happen? I didnt hang up on the bottom, but did miss a few fish. I cant believe the fish broke the hook. I wish it was just bent then i would have a good souvenir and a story to go along with it.
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Everything is better on the rocks.
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06-27-2009, 04:08 PM
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Plug Builder in Training
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: wareham MA
Posts: 4,046
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One probably snuck through their Quality Control, most likely wasn't soldered right.
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06-27-2009, 04:22 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
Posts: 8,642
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Rockcrawler
I I wish it was just bent then i would have a good souvenir and a story to go along with it.
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like this rob? i got my butt handed to me wed night.....4/0
Last edited by afterhours; 06-27-2009 at 04:37 PM..
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06-27-2009, 05:46 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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sorry for your loss Don, must have been fun though.
I have had instances with batches that I have cut to put on plugs and they break on me when I bend them back. Not all the time but seems there are batches that I get 3 or 4 that bust when I bend them back and then I will have 50 with no problem. Probably just a bad hook like I ran into once in a while.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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06-27-2009, 08:31 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Sturbridge MA
Posts: 3,127
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Sorry bout the hook don. Nice plug. Its gotta be hard to do quality control on hooks when so many of em are popped outta the machine.
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Everything is better on the rocks.
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06-27-2009, 09:18 PM
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Great White Scup Hunter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In the Corner...
Posts: 2,251
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Quote:
Originally Posted by afterhours
like this rob? i got my butt handed to me wed night.....4/0
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Don, that is total heartbreak,,,, That happened to me last year on a VMC hook,,,,, |
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06-27-2009, 09:59 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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Drag to tight?
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey 
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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06-27-2009, 10:18 PM
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eh! What do you mean?
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Tiverton
Posts: 763
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Something to think about...
A buddy of mine saved $8 on 100 """ VMC "" 4/0 hooks 
This was about 3 weeks ago.... he bought them on "flea-bay"
He was going to give me 20 of them for "replacements" but before they hit my box i cut 1 and the eye popped... i also broke the solder joint on another... I gave them back to him and told him to get his money back because they were not VMC hooks...
He got a reply back from the seller telling him that he needed to read the auction and it was "LIKE VMC HOOKS"... Chinese knock offs... |
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06-28-2009, 04:10 AM
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Permanently Disconnected
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 12,647
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Seen this before. Thailandese, Chinese, 99.9% of what they put out is cheap crap to rip you off. Alot of this on Ebay. Even with every day products like batteries, razors, etc. Some of the counterfeits are so good that you can't tell the difference in the packages.
Even the vmc quality has not been very good in the last few years. Broken, missing barbs, bad points, misbent.
I wish Eagle Claw made saltwater grade treble hooks, it'd put these guys to shame. I think they make some of the best hooks in the industry.
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Originally Posted by leptar
Something to think about...
A buddy of mine saved $8 on 100 """ VMC "" 4/0 hooks
This was about 3 weeks ago.... he bought them on "flea-bay"
He was going to give me 20 of them for "replacements" but before they hit my box i cut 1 and the eye popped... i also broke the solder joint on another... I gave them back to him and told him to get his money back because they were not VMC hooks...
He got a reply back from the seller telling him that he needed to read the auction and it was "LIKE VMC HOOKS"... Chinese knock offs... |
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06-28-2009, 10:09 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Scotty, EC does. I bought 2 boxes of 4X 4/0 trebles 2 years ago. I cannot remember where but they were black not silver or nickle. I do remember that they were very expensive. Like more than $1.00 per hook. Hook number is L777G-4/0
I bought them on a lark as I wanted to put black hooks on some black metal lip Dannys I made.
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No boat, back in the suds.  
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06-28-2009, 10:30 AM
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Permanently Disconnected
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 12,647
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That's the problem Paul they're not going to stand up to saltwater like the permasteel is.
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Originally Posted by piemma
Scotty, EC does. I bought 2 boxes of 4X 4/0 trebles 2 years ago. I cannot remember where but they were black not silver or nickle. I do remember that they were very expensive. Like more than $1.00 per hook. Hook number is L777G-4/0
I bought them on a lark as I wanted to put black hooks on some black metal lip Dannys I made.
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06-28-2009, 11:16 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: North Shore
Posts: 1,701
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
That's the problem Paul they're not going to stand up to saltwater like the permasteel is.
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I think it's time the Eagle Claw folks wake up and take notice ... there is a need ... |
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06-28-2009, 12:01 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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That's why I use 6x VMCs 
And EC makes a 4x saltwater finish L777 hook. Before VMCs were generally available, it was all I used. The finish holds up much better to corrosion than the VMC Perma-steel does. However, they are as dull as a butter knife out of the box, and they have longer shanks so they may not work as well as VMCs when used with a split ring.
Here you go--L777 trebles with the "Sea Guard" finish. Looks like they still make them. I'm pretty sre they came in sizes up to 5/0:
http://fishlazer.com/products/hooks....yleName=Treble
Last edited by Mike P; 06-28-2009 at 12:17 PM..
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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06-28-2009, 01:22 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 3,650
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Sometimes you could compromise one by accidentally cutting partway through when fish-handling. I get these huge boxes with a 1000 or more VMC's and there is maybe one or two that are funky looking.
Shiite happens - they don't suck though.
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06-28-2009, 03:40 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: To close to water for my insanity
Posts: 884
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I broke a 4x vmc a few weeks back and then found the piece on the boat when cleaning it at the end of the day. Thats my first one ever, but it does happen with every thing, as someone said quality control has got to be hard on hooks.
Don Ooouuch that must hurt, but im sure revenge will be yours.
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06-28-2009, 09:21 PM
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,953
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Im wondering if something that is designed not to bend or give AT ALL makes it actually brittle? a little give is good... just thinking...
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06-29-2009, 12:38 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 5,238
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanputski
Im wondering if something that is designed not to bend or give AT ALL makes it actually brittle? a little give is good... just thinking...
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