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Grumpy Old Pharts Board Gerritol, Ex-Lax, Immodium, Bad Breath - all requirements for the Grumpy Board |
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07-16-2009, 02:37 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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Originally Posted by wheresmy50
People kill their dogs all the time. Many of you probably have. I have, I just paid someone else to do it. Walking a dog into the woods to be shot is no differnt than taking it to the vet to be killed. Paying someone to kill is the same as killing yourself and you can't really argue that one is any more painless than the other.
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I don't know too many people who bring young, or middle aged, healthy dogs to a vet to be euthanized because they're being inconvenienced by them. Most ethical vets will refuse to do it.
"Hey, Doc, can you put Fido and Spot down for me? I want to go on a cruise next week, and I can't find anyone to dog-sit for me, and even though I have the money for a cruise, I'm a little short of cash (or maybe just too goddamned cheap) to board them".
Try running that line past a vet and see whether he does it, or picks up the phone to dime you out to the SPCA.
And the vet doesn't string up an old or sick dog from a pipe before administering the lethal injection.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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07-16-2009, 04:41 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Philadelphia
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Originally Posted by Mike P
I don't know too many people who bring young, or middle aged, healthy dogs to a vet to be euthanized because they're being inconvenienced by them. Most ethical vets will refuse to do it.
"Hey, Doc, can you put Fido and Spot down for me? I want to go on a cruise next week, and I can't find anyone to dog-sit for me, and even though I have the money for a cruise, I'm a little short of cash (or maybe just too goddamned cheap) to board them".
Try running that line past a vet and see whether he does it, or picks up the phone to dime you out to the SPCA.
And the vet doesn't string up an old or sick dog from a pipe before administering the lethal injection.
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People kill dogs of all ages for biting all the time. I suspect that many vets would kill your dog for you if you said it bit someone whether it actually did or not. I know someone who killed their springer spaniel because it bit someone.
I think I was pretty clear that the conditions of the specific crime in question were different than my example of simply killing a dog. I think it was in the second sentence of my post.
My point was that people react to someone killing a dog differently than that of less cute and affectionate animals, when it's really not much different. I know have the stats in front of me, but I suppose dozens of people were probably murdered in this country during the life of this thread. Plus I felt like people were really piling it on that guy when he really didn't deserve it.
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Article 1, Section 9:
No bill of attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.
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07-17-2009, 06:17 AM
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
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Originally Posted by wheresmy50
I suspect that many vets would kill your dog for you if you said it bit someone whether it actually did or not.
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Uhm. No.
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Originally Posted by ROCKFISH
How long do you think god will allow this world to continue? He must vomit every time he looks down on us.
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For people like you using his name to justify psychos doing ridiculous things? Yes. He must.
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Originally Posted by ROCKFISH
Wether you talk about pedigreed dogs, farm animals, racehorses, or tropical fish, culling of unwanted individuals has always been the norm.
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Yeaaaaaaah right.
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Ski Quicks Hole
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07-16-2009, 04:42 PM
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If you take an animal as a pet it's a whole nother thing than raising an animal for food. To kill a pet for selfish convience is immoral. To mistreat an animal raised for food is immoral as well. The man's a friggin amoral %$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$ .
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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07-16-2009, 04:47 PM
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Many young healthy animals are put to sleep (killed), legally by various government organizations (dog pounds etc.) because they are unwanted, and it is not convenient, or economical to keep them.
Most of these animals are held, terrified in a small cage until it is time to exterminate them. Breeders of all types of creatures routinely cull (kill) specimens that they have no use for or are less than perfect.
Wether you talk about pedigreed dogs, farm animals, racehorses, or tropical fish, culling of unwanted individuals has always been the norm.
On the other hand, the killing of unwanted children (abortion), has never been accepted until modern times. In our enlightened, modern and perverted world abortion has become legal while the politically correct activists fight for the rights of animals, and same sex marriage.
How long do you think god will allow this world to continue? He must vomit every time he looks down on us. Once before he destroyed the world because mankind had perverted his laws, and he said he would do it again.
Not a popular topic, but its right there in the bible, for all to read, and has been for thousands of years.
Last edited by ROCKFISH; 07-16-2009 at 05:38 PM..
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07-16-2009, 08:35 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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You have a right to your opinion. I have a right to mine.
You have the right to say that mine is %$%$%$%$ed up.
I have the right to say that yours is %$%$%$%$ed up.
That's the difference between a republic and a theocracy.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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07-16-2009, 08:49 PM
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Super Moderator
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Dog is man's best friend
PERIOD
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