Cape beach access

[Mike P]

OSV access on the Cape was in danger long before plovers were even on the radar. The birds were a gift from heaven above for those interests. Gave them the power to do what they never could have convinced the towns--who make a lot of money off OSV passes--to do otherwise.

Nowadays, even the towns' attitude is changing, as more tree hugging wash-ashores move to the Cape year round, attend town meetings and even run for and get elected to Boards of Selectmen.

As far as the Feds go, they have long looked at fishermen in 4x4s as more of a nuisance than an asset. The NPS could give a crap about what they make from selling a few thousand oversand passes. They must have a plover shrine somewhere in the Dept. of the Interior.

[Raven]

Originally Posted by Mike P

The birds were a gift from heaven ............

They must have a plover shrine somewhere in the Dept. of the Interior.

Use extreme caution: Plover spam ahead

i hear it's Guarded though real heavy !





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[OLD GOAT]

I sat at town meeting as a young man and listened to the discussing of the feds taking over for the future of mankind to be used IN A MANER THAT IT ALLWAYS HAD BEEN USED. A ND THAT FOLKS WAS THE BIG CONCERN. ------ IMHO If there needs to be any closing then lets close it ALL, public bathing beaches included. And then we will see how long it,s closed. I,m not against wildlife , i just think that some of these birds could be raised in breeder farms and allow people to use the National Parks

[Flaptail]

Originally Posted by Mike P

OSV access on the Cape was in danger long before plovers were even on the radar. The birds were a gift from heaven above for those interests. Gave them the power to do what they never could have convinced the towns--who make a lot of money off OSV passes--to do otherwise.

Nowadays, even the towns' attitude is changing, as more tree hugging wash-ashores move to the Cape year round, attend town meetings and even run for and get elected to Boards of Selectmen.

As far as the Feds go, they have long looked at fishermen in 4x4s as more of a nuisance than an asset. The NPS could give a crap about what they make from selling a few thousand oversand passes. They must have a plover shrine somewhere in the Dept. of the Interior.

Wrong. The NPS is forced by law to do what it does. If you knew some of the rangers as we know them you would know they do not like the closures. Closures mean loss of revenue that funds thier jobs. Most of them will tell you that "the bird Bitches and the guy from the USF&W are the real enemy in this". They have complete power over closure or opening and the NPS cannot do sh!t about it. Recent examples of this show the power they have where they open and close the same section of beach in one day because of a tern.

So.... next time your out there on the CCNS and see a royal blue metallic dodge Dakota pickup going up and down the beach, beware something is gonna give.

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by Flaptail

Wrong. The NPS is forced by law to do what it does. If you knew some of the rangers as we know them you would know they do not like the closures. Closures mean loss of revenue that funds thier jobs. Most of them will tell you that "the bird Bitches and the guy from the USF&W are the real enemy in this". They have complete power over closure or opening and the NPS cannot do sh!t about it. Recent examples of this show the power they have where they open and close the same section of beach in one day because of a tern.

So.... next time your out there on the CCNS and see a royal blue metallic dodge Dakota pickup going up and down the beach, beware something is gonna give.

Who was talking about the rank and file Rangers?

As Karl said, NPS policy dates back to the early 70s.