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Old 08-19-2009, 02:23 PM   #1
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man you guys are WAY missing the point. Spend all the time you want focusing on the wacko, but Massahusetts by population IS THE MOST LIBERAL STATE IN THE COUNTRY. If Obama's healthcare cannot get a warm reception here, the IS NO HOPE for the rest of the country. NONE. Get it?
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Others at Tuesday's meeting were more supportive of reform.

Dr. Sheila Leavitt, a physician from Newton, said she hoped for changes that would support primary care physicians who aren't paid as much as specialists. She said some of the rowdy critics at Tuesday's meeting appeared to be using the same "talking points" as those who showed up at similar meetings around the country.
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Did you read the end of your own post?
"Others at Tuesday's meeting were more supportive of reform.

Dr. Sheila Leavitt, a physician from Newton, said she hoped for changes that would support primary care physicians who aren't paid as much as specialists. She said some of the rowdy critics at Tuesday's meeting appeared to be using the same "talking points" as those who showed up at similar meetings around the country."


Are you saying that this statement you quoted supports the argument that most people at the meeting are for reform? I know you watched your little edited CNN video clip, but did you watch the longer versions? It's pretty clear that most people in the meeting are not supportive of HC reform right now. Jimmy's comment is accurate.

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Are you saying that this statement you quoted supports the argument that most people at the meeting are for reform? I know you watched your little edited CNN video clip, but did you watch the longer versions? It's pretty clear that most people in the meeting are not supportive of HC reform right now. Jimmy's comment is accurate.
So there's some people shout out some talking points against reform and that's the pulse of the entire State of Massachusetts?

I think most people believe reform is necessary be it the public option or tort, but a few holding signs comparing Obama to Hitler and state that MA is anti is pretty silly.

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Old 08-19-2009, 02:46 PM   #4
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I think most people believe reform is necessary be it the public option or tort, but a few holding signs comparing Obama to Hitler and state that MA is anti is pretty silly.

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Old 08-19-2009, 02:52 PM   #5
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So there's some people shout out some talking points against reform and that's the pulse of the entire State of Massachusetts?

I think most people believe reform is necessary be it the public option or tort, but a few holding signs comparing Obama to Hitler and state that MA is anti is pretty silly.

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Spence, if you looked at polls you'd see that it's not just a few Hitler sign toting crazies who aren't for the government reform as it's currently written. And I'd be willing to bet my paycheck that the woman with the idiotic sign voted for Obama in the presidential election. She doesn't strike me as a conservative person. Jim basically is saying that the current government HC reform proposal is not what the majority of citizens in MA want.

I think most people whether they're Republican, Democrat or Independent want some sort of change to healthcare. But most people don't want to see our government in charge of it. I think tort reform would be a good start, but with all the lawyers in politics it would go over like a fart in church.

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Old 08-19-2009, 05:45 PM   #6
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Spence, if you looked at polls you'd see that it's not just a few Hitler sign toting crazies who aren't for the government reform as it's currently written.
That's not really the point of RIJIMMY's thread.

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That's not really the point of RIJIMMY's thread.

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Oh Spince. The point he was making is that even though MA is the most liberal state in the country, most people here are not backing the President on the HC reform bill. Pretty simple to understand.

You made it about one person who held up an offensive sign and a few others who were shouting "talking points". It's ironic that you're now using the same tactic that you usually blame others of using. You're starting to get off your game a little. You need to get out and catch a fish before you go crazy and start showing up at town hall meetings in the east bay with signs of your own showing pictures of Obama and Biden dressed ad Bo and Luke Duke.

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Spence doesn't fish, he's a troll and I'm beginning to suspect that he and Barney Frank are the same person, has anyone ever seen the two of them in the same room together?...I bet not...unbridled arrogance like that is rare....that pic in his avatar isn't really Spence... Spence is actually Barney Frank...
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Oh Spince. The point he was making is that even though MA is the most liberal state in the country, most people here are not backing the President on the HC reform bill. Pretty simple to understand.

You made it about one person who held up an offensive sign and a few others who were shouting "talking points". It's ironic that you're now using the same tactic that you usually blame others of using. You're starting to get off your game a little. You need to get out and catch a fish before you go crazy and start showing up at town hall meetings in the east bay with signs of your own showing pictures of Obama and Biden dressed ad Bo and Luke Duke.
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So there's some people shout out some talking points against reform and that's the pulse of the entire State of Massachusetts?

I think most people believe reform is necessary be it the public option or tort, but a few holding signs comparing Obama to Hitler and state that MA is anti is pretty silly.

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Ahh Spence, not "some people" active people which I bet 100% are voters and they are the only ones who matter. If not, why are they spending so much time and money on these road shows. Those people represent VOTERS.

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Old 08-19-2009, 05:30 PM   #11
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So there's some people shout out some talking points against reform and that's the pulse of the entire State of Massachusetts?

I think most people believe reform is necessary be it the public option or tort, but a few holding signs comparing Obama to Hitler and state that MA is anti is pretty silly.

-spence
I'd lay a hefty bet on the Hitler idiot being somehow connected to the left... Probably some "lefty's" crazy brother in law, that got put up to it... No one would go to this like that without knowing it will hurt the "right" so someone on the right, would not be playing the fool for the camera... Probably also why Bawney Fwank gave him so much attention...
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Old 08-19-2009, 06:28 PM   #12
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I'd lay a hefty bet on the Hitler idiot being somehow connected to the left... Probably some "lefty's" crazy brother in law, that got put up to it... No one would go to this like that without knowing it will hurt the "right" so someone on the right, would not be playing the fool for the camera... Probably also why Bawney Fwank gave him so much attention...
Wasn't the Hitler comment directly tied originally to Rush???

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Old 08-19-2009, 06:50 PM   #13
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Probably some "lefty's" crazy brother in law, that got put up to it...
You mean something like the little 13 yr old girl that asked and read the second question
at Obama's town hall meeting. Something like- Why are all those people outside
holding those mean signs about your HC Program?

Later you find out her mother was a contributor/ supporter of Obama and
her little girl had attended the Easter egg hunt at the White House.

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