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[Nebe]

Any healthcare is better than no healthcare
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[justplugit]

Obama's plan has a champagne taste and a beer pocketbook.

There is no way a single payer plan is sustainable, anymore than
Social Security, and all of us have been paying into that since we were
teenagers getting our working papers.

Ahh what the H, screw our kids and grandkids.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Obama's plan has a champagne taste and a beer pocketbook.

There is no way a single payer plan is sustainable, anymore than
Social Security, and all of us have been paying into that since we were
teenagers getting our working papers.

Ahh what the H, screw our kids and grandkids.

You're right. Which makes it fortunate that a single payer plan isn't the proposal.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

You're right. Which makes it fortunate that a single payer plan isn't the proposal.

Only because Obama didn't get his plan passed in 2 weeks and
the Town Meetings attended by the Astra turfs threw a wet blanket on it.

Once employers saw there was a govt. plan available , they would of dropped their plans faster than you could say "lickitey split."

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Only because Obama didn't get his plan passed in 2 weeks and
the Town Meetings attended by the Astra turfs threw a wet blanket on it.

Actually, it's because a single-payer program was never in the Bill.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Actually, it's because a single-payer program was never in the Bill.

JD...is this your version of Spence word games? Obama and a plethera of those involved with the attempt to overhaul the health system have stated in the past, in their own words and not out of context that they support, prefer, WANT a single payer system...they also point out that the understand that they can't go straight to such a system but can "help" it along over time...either you think these folks have changed in their desire for a socialized, government run single payer system or you are complicit in the misrepresentation of what the ultimate goal and result of Obama/Kennedy/Democrat Congress/Marxist care would be...

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

JD...is this your version of Spence word games? Obama and a plethera of those involved with the attempt to overhaul the health system have stated in the past, in their own words and not out of context that they support, prefer, WANT a single payer system...they also point out that the understand that they can't go straight to such a system but can "help" it along over time...either you think these folks have changed in their desire for a socialized, government run single payer system or you are complicit in the misrepresentation of what the ultimate goal and result of Obama/Kennedy/Democrat Congress/Marxist care would be...

Funny, when I try to articulate what Obama means in your often out of context sound bites, you accuse me of playing word games.

When you do it, in a "guilt by association because they belong to the same party" conspiracy rant...it's all rational and good.

Hypocrite.

-spence

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by scottw

JD...is this your version of Spence word games?

No, it's my declaration that the people that actually write the laws (House and Senate) have never put a single-payer program in the bill.

Thus, pissing and moaning about how a single-payer program will destroy the country is just fueling misinformation and takes away from the issues with the HC bill (which are quite numerous) that are *actually included*.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Actually, it's because a single-payer program was never in the Bill.

JD, you better tell Nancy Pelosi then, i just saw her on TV with a blurb from her
Town Hall Meeting stating, "any bill passed by the House will have a Single Payer
Option in it. "
Sounds like the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by justplugit

JD, you better tell Nancy Pelosi then, i just saw her on TV with a blurb from her
Town Hall Meeting stating, "any bill passed by the House will have a Single Payer
Option in it. "
Sounds like the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.

She is such an ass without a clue. "Single-payer option" is an oxymoron. The entire bill is centered around a non-single-payer system.

A lot of Dems are even against a Gov't sponsored public option.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

You're right. Which makes it fortunate that a single payer plan isn't the proposal.

but it is the intended end game...the proposal(s) is/are simply a way to get there by slowly choking out(the unwilling) or completely controlling(the passive) what's left the free market...