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If your anything Spence, it's pedictable.
All polls are biased one way or the other. You could apply your points to every poll. The ones made during the day only poll those without jobs. The way the questions are worded effect the truth. Yada, yada..... You said "I LIED" and you were wrong, I told the truth.
Apologize to me please.
If your anything Spence, it's pedictable.
All polls are biased one way or the other. You could apply your points to every poll. The ones made during the day only poll those without jobs. The way the questions are worded effect the truth. Yada, yada..... You said "I LIED" and you were wrong, I told the truth.
Apologize to me please.
Polls certainly can be biased, but the better polling organizations use scientific methods and can be pretty accurate.
The statistic you cited, 45%, is not from a poll, it's from the IBD writer of the article.
Perhaps Wilson thought he was telling the truth because he looked at the same phoney stats?
Spence just wants his goat bride covered under his plan.
Spence, I hope your real wife is understanding. Mine won't even let me get a dog.
Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
If you want to see a Govt. plan similar to the proposed HC Plan, look
back at the William D Ford Federal Direct Student Loan Program passed under
Clinton, meant to compete with private plans.
" We are not taking a free enterprise system and federalizing it'' the then Deputy Education Madeline Kunin said,
"We are improving entrepreneurial and competitive possibilities." Sound familiar???
So, 16 yrs ago the government started competing for student loans and even though two thirds of students and universties prefer the private companies, with interest rates competitive with the Fed loans, they prefer the private loans, because of superior customer service.
Congress just passed HR 3321 which Federalizes all student loans, which if signed into law, will eliminate fed guarantees on private loans and replace them with the government's Direct Loan Program at a cost of 1 trillion over 10 years.
Sooo... it's an issue that they want to make sure the patient they are seeing is the actual patient?
Yeah, what a hassle
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
Not for me RRH, i'm on Medicare they have my medical records.
It's the guys that have private insurance where now their records are open
through the back door by another government agency, and the
businesses who bill others having the extra hassel and expense of keeping
even more records.
Looks like Nelson sold out.
Earmarks, earmarks and more earmarks.
Wasn't it Obama who promised no bill with earmarks would pass his desk?
How do these guys live with themselves?
The final vote scheduled 1:30 in the morning when we can't look these guys in
the eye when they say aye. Just that alone is enough for me to know
they are trying to pull a fast one on the American public.
Like my Dad used to say about my 12:00 AM curfew as a teenager,
"Nothing good can happen after 12 AM."
I knew he was right then, and nothing has changed since.
If this were a good bill they would be shouting about it from the roof tops.
It's going to get done.. How's that whole transparency thing working for ya?
You don't have to play by the rules (even when you set them yourself) if no one holds you accountable.
Appears the pharmaceutical companies got a sweet deal....hey, wasn't that emergency appointment to Kennedy's seat a pharmaceutical lobbiest?
Wow, I mean WOW, that's a weird coincidence.
Thank you DEMS!!! And you managed to screw the seniors too.
My hardcore liberal sister-in-law (who is a scialist in every sense of the word) is furious with Obama. She resides in the Howard Dean camp that this bill is nothing the progressive core liberals wanted. Every item they wanted has been wiped clean. She admits it is junk and thinks Obama and Rahm sold out to the insurance lobby. She could spit on Obama today... three months ago she thought he walked on water. Piece by piece it is all coming undone... might explain this....
Interesting that hard left democrats are pissed off because its not socialized medicine, and the right is pissed off because it is socialized medicine.
Interesting that hard left democrats are pissed off because its not socialized medicine, and the right is pissed off because it is socialized medicine.
I'm pissed off because we can't afford it, it's a lousy bill that doesn't fix any problems but creates more hardship. It's based on fiscal lies. It screws senior citizens..... there is a reason they are doing it at this time. It's a sucky bill and they are ramming it down our collective throats. We deserve better. VOTE THEM OUT. or not. It's up to you.
Interesting that hard left democrats are pissed off because its not socialized medicine, and the right is pissed off because it is socialized medicine.
No one really knows what it actually is aside from what Fox News, MSNBC and CNN reports.
In one poll, more than half of Americans want this to go through - in another, less than 40% want it - in yet another, a public-option has over 60% support.
As a business owner, I'm prepping ourselves to bend over, grab the ankles and take it like a prison inmate.
Interesting that hard left democrats are pissed off because its not socialized medicine, and the right is pissed off because it is socialized medicine.
It's not so much an either/or as it is a too much socialism vs. wanting more socialism. For the hard left, it was a chance for a big leap toward a socialist state instead of the slower, incremental shifting toward the Hobbesian Leviathan that has been occuring almost from the nation's beginning. The financial "crisis," the climate change conference, and the health care bill were massive opportunities to reinterpret/change the Constitution as granting positive powers to the State to DO for us as a group rather than only being a list of prohibitions of what it CANNOT DO against us as individuals, as well as opportunities to redistribute wealth from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
But, incremental steps in a socialist direction have been taken. That's why there is displeasure on both sides.
My hardcore liberal sister-in-law (who is a scialist in every sense of the word) is furious with Obama. She resides in the Howard Dean camp that this bill is nothing the progressive core liberals wanted. Every item they wanted has been wiped clean. She admits it is junk and thinks Obama and Rahm sold out to the insurance lobby. She could spit on Obama today... three months ago she thought he walked on water. Piece by piece it is all coming undone... might explain this....
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
This bill looks like a Christmas tree with goodies for all the holdouts.
Reid says "A number of states are treated differently than other states.
That's what legislation is all about, compromise."
Ya right, he's gotta be kiddin me.
Looks like a desperation bill, which gives whatever they want for the holdouts, so they can meet an artificial dead line,
at our cost.
Took a no cost Medicaid offer for Nevada for Nelson to sell out.
I hear you..I just got back from the hardware store and 3 elderly gentlemen were discussing the bill and Obama and they were pissed off. They were talking about all his lies.. "Worst President ever"..and the guy that said that was like 90.
I hear you..I just got back from the hardware store and 3 elderly gentlemen were discussing the bill and Obama and they were pissed off. They were talking about all his lies.. "Worst President ever"..and the guy that said that was like 90.
That same old guy probably still thinks Rock&Roll is evil
Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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