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[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Absolutely, kinda like with HC it's 50 million are without insurance,
or no it's 47 million, no it's 27 million no it's 20 million or is it 5 million?

Agreed. The lack of a harder estimated number without HC is ridiculous. I too would like to know who's included in that estimated 20-50 million. A 150% margin of error is less than helpful. (It's like the seal estimates of 5-12 thousand.)

Originally Posted by Fishpart

Interestingly enough 50,000 show up for a Million Man March that gets coverage for weeks and it is still a Million Man March. 100,000 Patriots show up in Washington peacefully protesting policy and it is dismissed as a few thousand and not even covered by the media.....

Or most people see these "tea parties" as a joke and some fad of the Conservatives to rile up the base. I would be willing to bet a minimum of 3/5 people at these things couldn't effectively represent what specific aspects of HC they disagree with and why - outside of regurgitating the talking points of Rush and friends. As fishbones has said in the past, even people that very actively follow the debate have difficulty sorting out what is actually in the bill and what is just propaganda.

As I have been saying consistently, there are major issues with the HC bill but Republicans are allowing the Dems to pass whatever they want because the Conservatives would rather fling sh!t than address the issues like grown ups.