Canal on Saturday Any bOdy? - Page 2 - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

IFG · 03-28-2003, 09:35 PM

I only fish the Canal with plus
Two yes a long cast is required
and Three get the On the Water Book on Fishing locations on the Cape it has about ten pages on the canal

Ugly Stiks are not Sensative enough go with the All Star

Give a man a fish he'll eat for a day
Teach a man to fish the canal he'll eat big fish forever

bloocrab · 03-29-2003, 12:53 AM

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...only fish the Canal with plugs

..Ifish.....don't restrict yourself to one style of fishing. Bait on the bottom has landed many big fish in the Ditch...along with LIVE herring

......even tins produce well, when worked properly. A good fisherman is versatile.

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..yes a long cast is required...

..preferred, but NOT required. Fish will come up right along the weeds searching for feed.

..please don't take this in a negative way. Stay focused and determined.

IFG · 03-29-2003, 08:16 PM

I jig when I have to
I like killing'em on top water for the rush
I like jigging in the wind
but nothing beats the top

your right about the cast but when them cows are a jumping in the middle I want to get em

bloocrab · 03-30-2003, 09:03 AM

...and those cows do LIKE the middle...

.....especially chasing the macs around....

Notaro · 03-30-2003, 02:39 PM

bloocrab- thanks for your positive reinforcement. okay, i will try that. okay, which spot do you like to fish on the cape cod canal? the railroad, marinetime academy, or where?

Canalratt1 · 03-30-2003, 05:25 PM

Lots of differant ways to fish the Ditch. Long casts are nice but most of my big fish have been caught very close to the rocks. Hooking a large way out is a tough way to fish, you lose the fish alot of the time too many things can go wrong. When the cows come through there are spots that they will be closer than the middle. I usually wait for some closer activity not try to cast on breaks too far out.

IFG · 03-30-2003, 07:51 PM

The Canal really can vary you need to know locations for the tides If you get the On The Water locations book it gives you all that information

But go exploring

IFG · 03-30-2003, 07:56 PM

I fish the Maritime alot
Both Canal for cows and Flats for Schoolies
if your looking to learn man let me know I'll give you more info

Mike P · 03-30-2003, 08:04 PM

Most of the time, when you cast at breaking fish, accuracy counts as much as distance. It's tempting to throw at the fish in the middle, but only a few casters are able to hit a 3 foot target at 90 yards. And a lot of times it comes down to that degree of accuracy--especially on a running current.

Tony can tell you the number of times we've thrown on fish in the middle and missed, and during the retrieve, have big fish break inside of 30 yards, which we could do nothing but curse at. Accuracy at 30 yards is a lot easier than at 3x that distance. Nowadays, I know what my chances are of getting a plug right on a fish, and if it's not a good percentage, I let others try their best. The best feeling in the world is hooking a fish right in front of a guy 50 feet away whose plug is 50 yards downcurrent

I've seen 40 pound plus fish push squid and pogies right up onto the rocks, 4' long fish sitting in holes 20' from shore, and fish breaking on whiting right along the edge of the drop-off.

IFG · 03-30-2003, 08:07 PM

I caught a Keeper just hovering a plug over the water what a rush!

your right Mike but I like letting the plug fly over the canal

Notaro · 03-31-2003, 09:59 AM

fishgibbs- yes, i am looking to learn. flatties? hmmm, this one i gotta do. but i need a "safe spot" on the canal to fish. so i can get the ideas of fishing on the canal.

canalrat-so i shouldnt be concerned abt casting far like ron arra. i can cast with my efforts, right?

mikepp- who is tony? thank you for the tips, mike. man, i have a lot to learn about fishing.

Mike P · 03-31-2003, 12:17 PM

Tony=canalratt1. We go back to before Al Gore invented the internet

Notaro · 03-31-2003, 01:46 PM

ah, i see, mikep. alright, i will PM tony.

IFG · 03-31-2003, 07:32 PM

the safest spot for flats fishing would be the tidal flats at the foot of the RR bridge on the Cape side in Gray Gables it's a good place to get your canal legs.

Notaro · 03-31-2003, 08:08 PM

re u serious? i never seen that place, man. do u have a pic or a map of it?

IFG · 03-31-2003, 08:11 PM

Ive been fishing that hole since i was 7
It's in the On The water book or at www.capecodcanalfishing.com

or check the canal map on Mike's web page there is public parking right behind the flats

Notaro · 03-31-2003, 08:16 PM

i dont see the flats on the cc webcam

Canalratt1 · 03-31-2003, 08:23 PM

Mike you know exactly what I'm saying! If the cows are breaking way out a few will always come in close these ones are the ones I target. The spots Notaro and IFG's have to be learned but you put your time in and explore there are a few. Don't limit yourself to fishing only one way here some years the surface action can be very dissapointing, keep an open mind and try some things. Jigging, chunking and live eels have thier place and will get you more and bigger fish than plugging surface breaks. Soon live and fresh herring will be the bait after that the options vary.

Slipknot · 03-31-2003, 08:27 PM

Notaro, don't go out on the mudflats at Bell rd. alone. Go with someone who has done it before and knows the water. Best to wear an inflatable vest also for safety.

Notaro · 03-31-2003, 08:28 PM

okay, thanks, canal rat. i will try. i have been dying to use a eel. but what rod should i use for eeling? i know how casting a eel can be tiresome.

JohnR · 03-31-2003, 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by Notaro
i dont see the flats on the cc webcam

Notaro - you cannot scout fishing spots on the Internet. You must scout spots with your boots and its even a good idea to leave the rod at home when scouting. Also, never attmept the more difficult spots unless you are with someone that has a lot of experience there. Too many lives are lost surffishing that could have ben prevented!

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i know how casting a eel can be tiresome.

How is casting an eel tiresome? Have you ever casted an eel?

Notaro · 03-31-2003, 08:30 PM

define the "most difficult spots," john. and

Mike P · 03-31-2003, 10:13 PM

I'll second, third, fourth and even fifth what slip and John said about the flats. I've seen a couple of near drownings there. Go with someone who knows the safe way out there.

Notaro · 03-31-2003, 11:15 PM

u know what? canal isnt safe for me! who is willing to tutor me about canal? i dont want to pay a lot on ron arra bec i spent on crapola for my spring breaks and fishing excursions.

JohnR · 04-01-2003, 07:44 AM

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Originally posted by Notaro
define the "most difficult spots," john. and

The spots that will at best break your ass and at worst, will take your life. This is not a joking matter. People here have lost friends who were extremely knowlegable. It can happen all too easy to someone new to a spot.

So , I'll define "difficult spots" as those that can easily take the life of the unprepared. And I'll say that being "prepared" requires you to be fishing with someone knowledgeable in the area...

Believe me when I say that I don't want to sound like a jerk here but your discussions online here for the past two months have done nothing to make me feel that you will approach surfcasting safely and with enough respect for the dangers involved. Consider these words of advice offered with the best intentions: You need to make a reasonable plan for fishing this year and stick to it. Find a fishing partner that has some experience that you can work with and learn some of the ropes before getting into the more challenging aspects. If you chose to go a different route, all I can say is that you should stick to easier salt fishing.

IFG · 04-01-2003, 11:52 AM

i am trying not to limit myself but I have only done plug fishing and a little jigging but i plan to jig more this year

Notaro the tidal flats are pretty safe you can even fish without touching the water.

When the time comes I can hook you up

Notaro · 04-01-2003, 12:01 PM

johnr- okay, if it's that what you think. alright, but i understand what you mean. i almost drowned in rockport once. i will take those advices. thank you for your advices. and i will be aware of those dangers involved.

IFG- thanks, man. we will see about it. email me or soemthing.

Mike P · 04-01-2003, 03:38 PM

Fishing the whole cove area of the flats from the bank is safe, except for one or two mudholes that you might go down into over your ankle.

Wading out to the mussel bed that's about 200' from the end of the lot at Bell Road is a different story. Many of us here have fished there since before you were born. There's a safe way out and a way out that will result in them fishing out your carcass from around Cleveland's Ledge Light. Also, the same thing can happen if you take one step too many off that mussel bed. I grabbed one guy by his wader suspenders one night and both of us almost went in before I dragged him back up. There's also the suction created when a big tanker, freighter or cruise ship goes by, and getting dumped on your can by a wake. That mussel bed is a place you should go to first in daylight, and you should follow someone out there who has been there before and knows the safe way out, and where to stand on that mussel bed to avoid problems.

redcrbbr · 04-01-2003, 06:18 PM

notaro..here is a little suggestion that will be fun and show you some ways of fishing the canal. in 3-4 weeks get your backpack and pack a really nice lunch for you and your friends. get your bicycles or rent some and start peddeling along the access road and just check out how people fish. you will learn and see more in a couple of miles, than anyone could tell you in a month... and you'll have a nice picnic lunch to boot.

Notaro · 04-02-2003, 02:14 AM

whoa, mikep, that scared me more. alright, i will treat it with safety. so i will bike around like redcrbber suggusted. and also eat a good lunch.