Swords: Life on the line

[maddmatt]

Originally Posted by ivanputski

you know what happened to the lobster show... After deadliest catch, how can you have a show about fetching lobsters in "treacherous" 8 foot seas with 70 degree water 5 miles from touristville? Maybe if this show came out first, but honestly... that show blew.

true that

[piemma]

I saw a rerun of Swords yesterday or the day before. I found it to be ridiculous. On Linda Greenlaw's boat they lose a bunch of gutted sword carcasses because the boat rolls and they have the gunnel door open. If I'm fishing for money I'm figuring our a way to secure my catch. Just seemed like the show was too contrived to make it compete with "The Deadliest Catch".

[Islander77]

all I can say is when you all that bash walk a mile in the shoes of the men you like to bash so hard then talk.... Oh wait you dont here that one owner had a green captain that came in about 100 pounds over on monk tail one day on a new bout... Here is the important part.. OWNER CAPTAIN AND BOAT NEVER I MEAN NEVER HAD AN OVER QUOTA INFRACYION THE OWNER HAS BEEN FISHING FOR BETTER THAN 30 YEARS.... You dont hear this part first things first 30 day tie up boat and captain.. hmm month outta work .. that hurts.. part 2 5 DAYS AT SEA.. Ok that is a death nail once your landings are off you lose those days permanately... oh and they get 28 a year to start with.. part 3 200k fine yea thats 200,000 hmm and yall think you get hit for speeding to work in am after a long night...now the fine was levied down to 75k the days not lost and the 30 day stayed in affect.. Only took 2 years and god knows how much in lawyers fees.. Im sorry but yall watch a show and get this bashing going.. First chompers is an idiot.. the shark was not kept maybe cause of permits.. The gaffing it... well hey it is what it is.. I doubt any one n this forum is christ like or virgin of sin in fishing... You have no idea what ist like to do this in most cases, its not an easy beer drinking life style its hard work and a hard life.. I know first hand lobstered and long lined.. When your in 25+ foot seas on a 50 foot boat yea life is great... people get freaked out about 5 foot swells in their 33 foot cc ha!... sorry guys I do not care what any one thinks If you dont live it dont bash it... Yea my family has been in commercial fishing for many generations and is now getting sqeezed in a stranglehold by the NMFA and its regs and cutbacks... I dont think if any of you were looking at working 14 days a year and that was all that was allowed you would be impressed either... And as far as the fisheries between the block and mainland... I know first hand what that was about... My family is there and has been since day one... sorry I went on this rant but......

[piemma]

Originally Posted by Islander77

all I can say is when you all that bash walk a mile in the shoes of the men you like to bash so hard then talk.... Oh wait you dont here that one owner had a green captain that came in about 100 pounds over on monk tail one day on a new bout... Here is the important part.. OWNER CAPTAIN AND BOAT NEVER I MEAN NEVER HAD AN OVER QUOTA INFRACYION THE OWNER HAS BEEN FISHING FOR BETTER THAN 30 YEARS.... You dont hear this part first things first 30 day tie up boat and captain.. hmm month outta work .. that hurts.. part 2 5 DAYS AT SEA.. Ok that is a death nail once your landings are off you lose those days permanately... oh and they get 28 a year to start with.. part 3 200k fine yea thats 200,000 hmm and yall think you get hit for speeding to work in am after a long night...now the fine was levied down to 75k the days not lost and the 30 day stayed in affect.. Only took 2 years and god knows how much in lawyers fees.. Im sorry but yall watch a show and get this bashing going.. First chompers is an idiot.. the shark was not kept maybe cause of permits.. The gaffing it... well hey it is what it is.. I doubt any one n this forum is christ like or virgin of sin in fishing... You have no idea what ist like to do this in most cases, its not an easy beer drinking life style its hard work and a hard life.. I know first hand lobstered and long lined.. When your in 25+ foot seas on a 50 foot boat yea life is great... people get freaked out about 5 foot swells in their 33 foot cc ha!... sorry guys I do not care what any one thinks If you dont live it dont bash it... Yea my family has been in commercial fishing for many generations and is now getting sqeezed in a stranglehold by the NMFA and its regs and cutbacks... I dont think if any of you were looking at working 14 days a year and that was all that was allowed you would be impressed either... And as far as the fisheries between the block and mainland... I know first hand what that was about... My family is there and has been since day one... sorry I went on this rant but......

I wasn't bashing the captain, Linda Greenlaw. She has a huge reputation and deservedly so. I was bashing the producers of the show who made her and the other boat captains look like a bunch of fools. They didn't portray the hard life that a commercial fisherman has. They seems to think that by showing a bunch of guys jumping around yelling "this is what it's about" they were doing justice to a hard working bunch of regular people.

BTW, I would never bash the commercial guys. I worked with a bunch of guys who were commercial deep water lobstermen and other who worked draggers. I was a logger at the time and use to trade firewood for lobster and tile fish (when they were fishing tiles).

[MAKAI]

How do you even live on 28 days at sea ?

[Islander77]

Originally Posted by MAKAI

How do you even live on 28 days at sea ?

Exactly you tell me and the rest of the ground fisheries... oh wait if you fish area X recount oh hahaha sorry was that 28 oh no no you get 14 days cause every one of your days out counts as two.... You tell me

[MAKAI]

Originally Posted by Islander77

Exactly you tell me and the rest of the ground fisheries... oh wait if you fish area X recount oh hahaha sorry was that 28 oh no no you get 14 days cause every one of your days out counts as two.... You tell me

Man,. . . . why bother
How do you fill the void ?
I'd be out of my mind.

[Sea Flat]

I know that when Greenlaw was arrested in Canada she had the camera crew on board with her. She says her gear was swept into the illegal fishing grounds by the current and she was merely going back to retrieve her gear.

Anyway, I wonder if they are going to show any footage from the arrest. Probably not, but that would be pretty cool.

[Islander77]

Originally Posted by MAKAI

Man,. . . . why bother
How do you fill the void ?
I'd be out of my mind.

Well if people realized how tight the regs are for gillnet and and longline they may look at it different but hey ya know as long as miff and biff get there fish when they joy ride in the benz thats all that matters right??? Fishin commercialy is no where near or ever will be what it was... I know first hand thanks to family and my own experience... the sad fact is no one will be able to complain soon... Our great government that can mess up a one car funeral or wet dream is gonna be running it and making it corporate... So hope yall like fishing for nada.... Not for nothin the government run or overseeing things scares me... LOOK AT TR#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&G feds deregulated freight in the 70s and since the only thing that has gone up is fuel. truck cost, insurance cost,... freight still in the toilet for pricing... sad sad sad...

[vineyardblues]

I watched the show for a few hours the other night,
It was OK , not sure if I will watch again,

I have not eaten a Sword Fish in over 22 years , I thought everyone was boycotting them? (Hell I am doing my part)

In the good old days they were stacked up like cords of wood on the Vineyard, and they sold the sword's inside for a few bucks as I remember

VB