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10-06-2009, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
it's called Stockholm Syndrome
Stockholm syndrome is a psychological response sometimes seen in abducted hostages, in which the hostage shows signs of loyalty to the hostage-taker, regardless of the danger or risk in which they have been placed.
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This isn't a dig at the Right, because I agree with much of their policies when it comes to Welfare...
but what do Republicans have to offer someone with no education, no job or a mother of 3 at 21 years old? The answer is nothing. That's why they vote Democratic. As I said above, the Dems are the ones that will put money in their pocket without having to get a job.
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
also,
the democrats have created an illusion that republicans are
- against civil rights
- against immigration
2 things that anyone who paid attention in history class would know are incorrect.
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You're absolutely right. But the Republican and Democrat parties people learned about in history class are much different from the parties that exist today.
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10-06-2009, 01:23 PM
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I think that I'm going to hang out here in my easy chair and see where this blog is going. 
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10-06-2009, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
but what do Republicans have to offer someone with no education, no job or a mother of 3 at 21 years old? The answer is nothing. That's why they vote Democratic. As I said above, the Dems are the ones that will put money in their pocket without having to get a job.
The Dems offer permanent, subsidized, underclass existence. It's a sort of cause and effect generational cycle. The widespread incidence of 21 year old (or younger) mothers of 3 with no job is to a great extent caused by the lack of pressure to abstain from that behaviour (it's not their fault, societal discrimination, hundreds of years of slavery, etc. in the case of blacks; lack of behavioural standards in the case of whites) coupled with the welfare safety net. The Republicans offer them tough love, emphasis on crime reduction and business expansion, opportunity to gain self-respect. This is, obviously, an over-simplification, but the answer to your question would require more space than is available here.
You're absolutely right. But the Republican and Democrat parties people learned about in history class are much different from the parties that exist today.
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Yes, they both have moved considerably to the left since those history books were written. The Dems, in olden days, enforced slavery with a stick, today, they cajole it with a carrot.
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10-06-2009, 05:14 PM
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For some reason, the promise of lower taxes, smaller government and greater personal responsibility does not resonate with people below the poverty line.
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10-06-2009, 07:30 PM
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I wonder how all those poor people could afford tickets to the city in the first place?
-spence
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10-06-2009, 07:35 PM
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I wonder how all those poor people could afford tickets to the city in the first place?
-spence
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A nice ride on the Section 8 train. Guaranteed check and housing.
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10-06-2009, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
A nice ride on the Section 8 train. Guaranteed check and housing.
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I'm thinking a bit before Section 8.
-spence
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10-06-2009, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I'm thinking a bit before Section 8.
-spence
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How far back do you want to go? And which poor folks? All of them? That would be a very diverse group with many different stories. Do you mean narrowed down by race? By ethnicity? By immigration? By slavery? By indentured servitude? By loss of fortune and hard luck? By ancestors who searched for a better life? By escape from the law? Your mysterious question is impossible to answer unless you flesh it out. I'm sure there will be an interesting, if not controversial, point to be made.
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10-07-2009, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Yes, they both have moved considerably to the left since those history books were written. The Dems, in olden days, enforced slavery with a stick, today, they cajole it with a carrot.
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The history books have move to the left also.
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10-07-2009, 07:59 AM
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I think the republicans should be more concerned with why North Carolina and Virginia turned from red to blue last cycle than they should be with courting the inner city vote. Better to concentrate on the voters you just lost than the ones you never had.
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