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10-20-2009, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
like it or not, racism is not illegal. Discrimination is and those who do, should be punished.
I love this stuff, I could debate all day - here is one for you -
Bill is a computer programmer, great resume, great personality, etc. He is interviewing with Sally for a new position. The interview is goign extremely well, they hit it off, Bill is exactly what Sally needs. As the interview concludes, Sally says she is off to lunch, and will walk Bill to his car. As they get to Bill's car, Sally notices the swastika and other nazi parphanalia in Bill's car. Bill says goodbye to Sally and reiterates his interest in the role. Sally is Jewish.
So, will Bill get the job? Of course not. However - were his civil rights violated? Sally did not hire him based on his personal beliefs, that is illegal. Although Bill's affiliations may be deplorable, he still has rights. Now what it Sally was muslim and Bill had a cross or christian symbols in his car? Millions of Muslims were massacared by Christian while they pulled out from the Crusades? Where do we draw the line with freedom and discrimination. That was the point I was trying to get across with my posts. Interesting stuff for those that like to think.
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All Bill needs to do is Prove it....thats the hard part. Unless Sally says I'm not hiring you because you're a Nazi then he doesn't have a dock-martin to stand on.
Thats where the JOP eff'ed up.....he openly told them why he wasn't doing it.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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10-20-2009, 02:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
like it or not, racism is not illegal. Discrimination is and those who do, should be punished.
I love this stuff, I could debate all day - here is one for you -
Bill is a computer programmer, great resume, great personality, etc. He is interviewing with Sally for a new position. The interview is goign extremely well, they hit it off, Bill is exactly what Sally needs. As the interview concludes, Sally says she is off to lunch, and will walk Bill to his car. As they get to Bill's car, Sally notices the swastika and other nazi parphanalia in Bill's car. Bill says goodbye to Sally and reiterates his interest in the role. Sally is Jewish.
So, will Bill get the job? Of course not. However - were his civil rights violated? Sally did not hire him based on his personal beliefs, that is illegal. Although Bill's affiliations may be deplorable, he still has rights. Now what it Sally was muslim and Bill had a cross or christian symbols in his car? Millions of Muslims were massacared by Christian while they pulled out from the Crusades? Where do we draw the line with freedom and discrimination. That was the point I was trying to get across with my posts. Interesting stuff for those that like to think.
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Discrimination is not illegal. Discrimination of a protected class *is* illegal.
If two guys apply for a position and are equally qualified, except one wears brown shoes and one wears black shoes with white trim. Say you don't like people that wear shoes that aren't a solid color, you hire the brown shoe guy. You just discriminated, but it's not illegal. |
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10-20-2009, 03:22 PM
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spence may disagree, hes the shoe expert. black shoes with white trim sounds goofy to me.
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making s-b.com a kinder, gentler place for all 
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10-20-2009, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
spence may disagree, hes the shoe expert. black shoes with white trim sounds goofy to me.
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Perfectly acceptable if you're at the bowling alley. |
Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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10-21-2009, 10:56 AM
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sick of bluefish
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no firestorm, good honest discussion. I can honeslty say after meeting with, fishing with or pm'ing with some of my main protagonists on the political forum that these guys are all good people. There are no hard feelings out here.
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making s-b.com a kinder, gentler place for all
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10-21-2009, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
no firestorm, good honest discussion. I can honeslty say after meeting with, fishing with or pm'ing with some of my main protagonists on the political forum that these guys are all good people. There are no hard feelings out here.
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JD hurt my feelings  But I'm the sensitive type. |
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10-21-2009, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
JD hurt my feelings But I'm the sensitive type. |
Thanks. Thanks a lot buckman. I just sprayed Guinness all over my desk. 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
no firestorm, good honest discussion. I can honeslty say after meeting with, fishing with or pm'ing with some of my main protagonists on the political forum that these guys are all good people. There are no hard feelings out here.
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I agree, wholeheartedly. It's like MMA fighters stepping into the ring against former sparring partners. In the PF, the gloves are off and game on. Outside of here, I see everyone as a peer and welcome the day I can shake hands with many of you (with the exception of a select few - no, you're not one of the exceptions scott). |
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10-21-2009, 06:28 PM
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10-21-2009, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
JBut I'm the sensitive type.
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Good thing this forum is don't ask don't tell... |
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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10-21-2009, 08:28 PM
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NEVER/EVER F #$%^&*() AGAIN ><>><><  |
ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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11-04-2009, 02:34 PM
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Well, the other shoe has finally dropped. Bardwell resigned yesterday form his Justice of the Peace position.
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Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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