Striper Limit

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

Why can't we see the results of the poll?

Its a hidden poll that will become visible when it ends November 1st. Being hidden, there is a good chance it will be more accurate as well.

[piemma]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Its a hidden poll that will become visible when it ends November 1st. Being hidden, there is a good chance it will be more accurate as well.

That is the reason I made it hidden. I wanted unbiased opinions

[Dick Durand]

It seems to me that reducing the bag limit is the key - thinking about all the big bass killed by charters. I'm a little flexible on minimun size, tending to favor one at 34". It's also necessary to control the seining of pogy in order to supply the bass with ample food.

[jake]

1@36"

[Got Stripers]

I'd like to see a slot, one small and one 36 or 42+ plus, I like to eat an occassional striper but smaller is tastier.

[Grapenuts]

one fish per person..26-28"....said it before, you up to 36" and these folks who really don't know how to fish will kill more trying to get to that 36" fish....stiffy is right, keep it small....all others get tossed back..take your pic and release it if you feel the need to beet on your chest.

[Islander77]

I think we should copy the recreational policies of Chesapeake Bay fisheries, One at 18"-24" and one "trophy" above 40" with special permit during spawning... But reg season is still 2 a day 28" minimum... And as far as commercial goes I think they should go to quota fishing end of story once the limit hits its OVER done I think they should do tis with most fisheries to be honest. It works the best...

[niko]

as a meat fisherman it pains me to say it but i would be in favor of a 50% reduction in the harvest of stripers both comm and rec. for recs 1 fish at 28"-36" plus some sort of trophy (44"+?) clause and cut the comm quota by half. it would be nice to see the waters teeming w/ bass. that being said we better make sure these bass have enough to eat inshore, ie more pogs and less dogs

[BassDawg]

1 @ 36", leave the breeder males ALONE!!!

if ya can't reach that mark, then get better or stay the EFFF home!
and leave your trash, landing strip lights, and stinking
white buckets home TOO!!! just my humble opinion, gents!

[zimmy]

[QUOTE=BassDawg;720387]1 @ 36", leave the breeder males ALONE!!!
QUOTE]


Target the females and leave the males alone?

[Islander77]

Originally Posted by BassDawg

1 @ 36", leave the breeder males ALONE!!!

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Breeder males???? Umm majority of fish at 36" and bigger you catch is gonna be a female... Male bass dont get that big just to let you know you have the science backwards... In most other mammal communities the female is the bigger less attractive colored one... So keep in mind all the trophy bass caught are generally female....

[BassDawg]

Originally Posted by Islander77

Breeder males???? Umm majority of fish at 36" and bigger you catch is gonna be a female... Male bass dont get that big just to let you know you have the science backwards... In most other mammal communities the female is the bigger less attractive colored one... So keep in mind all the trophy bass caught are generally female....

!!!precisely!!! hence my mantra,,,,,,,,,,,,,

if they are under the size requirement,
then they are less likely to be kept, NO?

i am well aware of the SCIENCE m'man~~~
also, by restricting our bag limit to 1/day we could limit
the catch of the breeder FEMALES that tend to be over 36",,,,,,,,,,,,

but they have to be bred at some point, and most of those GUYS are in the 22" to 30" range, i'm guessing??? are you digging my science, now Islander77? besides,,,,,,,,,,most of the surfcasters who DO catch over 36" are avid C&R guys, since we KNOW just how important the Big Gurls are to our fishery.

last question~~~ since when did fish, become mammals?

[maddmatt]

Originally Posted by Islander77

Breeder males???? Umm majority of fish at 36" and bigger you catch is gonna be a female... Male bass dont get that big just to let you know you have the science backwards... In most other mammal communities the female is the bigger less attractive colored one... So keep in mind all the trophy bass caught are generally female....

fish are mammals now?? i've been out of school too long.

[angler229]

I've thought about this subject a lot this year. A couple of things I've noticed is in the few times I've been outside the three mile range either tuna fishing or on bass tagging trips for the state there is no shortage of bass offshore. I personally think this has a lot to do with where the majority of the bait is. If you take river herring for example in years past there were millions of fish going up and down runs and billions of juveniles dropping out, basically providing a season long inshore food source, thus giving a reason for fish to stay inshore. Now with these runs in peril the food source is greatly reduced giving fish far less reason to stay inshore. What I'm trying to say is, the bass are going to go where the bait is and right now there is a lot more bait offshore than inshore. So by just lowering bag limit I really don't think you are going to see much of an improvement of the inshore fishery. All that being said I would be in favor in a reduction of the bag limit to 1 @ 28" which still gives your average Joe a chance to take home a fish.

[joe the plumber]

1 @ 28"

[Tagger]

1 fish at 36 did wonders last time ... bring it back please

[piemma]

Almost 50% (49.19% )of the voters favored 1 fish 36"

19% voted for 1 fish, 34"

17% 1, fish 28"

14% 2, 28"

The really interesting stat is the 86% of the voters favor dropping the bag limit to 1 fish a day. How the heck to we get the fisheries management people to listen.

[Ed B]

The really interesting stat is the 86% of the voters favor dropping the bag limit to 1 fish a day. How the heck to we get the fisheries management people to listen.[/QUOTE]

They do listen to recreational fisherman Paul, unfortunately our recreational interests are put forth by the booming voices of the Party and Charter Boat industry.

In addition to striped bass, look at the seasonal openings and bag limits for Fluke, Tautog, Scup. It's all about getting people onboard a charter and paying a fare to stock their coolers.

In my opinion there should be seperate categories of fisheries advisors for recreational fisherman and charter boats, and the recreational advisor has no financial stake in recreational limits.

The only way to get our voices heard is to show up at meetings and state our case and that is something that recreational fisherman dont do particularly well.

Ed

[Crafty Angler]

Originally Posted by Ed B

They do listen to recreational fisherman Paul, unfortunately our recreational interests are put forth by the booming voices of the Party and Charter Boat industry.

In addition to striped bass, look at the seasonal openings and bag limits for Fluke, Tautog, Scup. It's all about getting people onboard a charter and paying a fare to stock their coolers.

In my opinion there should be seperate categories of fisheries advisors for recreational fisherman and charter boats, and the recreational advisor has no financial stake in recreational limits.

The only way to get our voices heard is to show up at meetings and state our case and that is something that recreational fisherman dont do particularly well.

Ed

Rightly said, Ed...

I went to an open meeting of the RI Striped Bass Advisory Council with DZ for the 1st time maybe 5 or 6 years ago expecting an auditorium meeting only to find maybe a dozen fishing folk there around a table in a small room

I think DZ and I were two of the VERY few there - if not the only two - who were not charter skippers - the bias toward charter boat interests was immediately obvious

If money is involved, it's a vocation not an avocation and not recreational

Ed's right - muttering among ourselves and shaking our heads will accomplish nothing

The make-up of the advisory boards with a commercial stake will always skew the results until there's some parity with not-for-profit representation

[intrepid24]

Originally Posted by piemma

Almost 50% (49.19% )of the voters favored 1 fish 36"

19% voted for 1 fish, 34"

17% 1, fish 28"

14% 2, 28"

The really interesting stat is the 86% of the voters favor dropping the bag limit to 1 fish a day. How the heck to we get the fisheries management people to listen.

just wondering if anyone would have voted for moratorium, had it been on the board......

[Sea Flat]

Originally Posted by intrepid24

just wondering if anyone would have voted for moratorium, had it been on the board......

I definitely would not be against it. I do like to keep a fish from time to time, but I would rather just catch fish and if I have to throw it back then that is fine with me.

I do not understand why charter boat and party boat captains are so against stricter regs. People will still want to go fishing even if they have to throw them back won't they? If anything it will help their business long term.

[Flaptail]

Originally Posted by Sea Flat

I definitely would not be against it. I do like to keep a fish from time to time, but I would rather just catch fish and if I have to throw it back then that is fine with me.

I do not understand why charter boat and party boat captains are so against stricter regs. People will still want to go fishing even if they have to throw them back won't they? If anything it will help their business long term.

A couple or more big fish on the dock is advertising. Anyone who is curious enough to take time to stop and watch a charter boat unload at the dock at the end of a trip becomes a potential, though innocently enough, customer.

I knwo I worked charter boats in the 70's and the more fish you could put on the dock and have a bunch of satisfied chater clients back slapping and snapping pictures and hooting and hollering about how greath the fishing was attracts the innocent bystanders into the notion of doing it themsleves. If you put more on the dock to see then the next skipper you get more business, it's all about making money and making more than the next guy.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Sea Flat

I definitely would not be against it. I do like to keep a fish from time to time, but I would rather just catch fish and if I have to throw it back then that is fine with me.

I do not understand why charter boat and party boat captains are so against stricter regs. People will still want to go fishing even if they have to throw them back won't they? If anything it will help their business long term.

No.
their concern is that w/ lower bags people won't spend the money to go. Especially true with bottom fish.

[Redsoxticket]

Originally Posted by piemma

Almost 50% (49.19% )of the voters favored 1 fish 36"

19% voted for 1 fish, 34"

17% 1, fish 28"

14% 2, 28"

The really interesting stat is the 86% of the voters favor dropping the bag limit to 1 fish a day. How the heck to we get the fisheries management people to listen.

Attend the RI Striped Bass Advisory Council meetings with an agenda and state your concern.
All the resources are here on S-B (i.e members) and all we need is a leader and since you initiated this poll along with your knowledge and experience you would make a good candidate.

We have trouble organizing a S-B leg event let alone something of this magnitude unless there is a raffle or food involved.

[MAKAI]

Food ?

[piemma]

Originally Posted by Redsoxticket

Attend the RI Striped Bass Advisory Council meetings with an agenda and state your concern.
All the resources are here on S-B (i.e members) and all we need is a leader and since you initiated this poll along with your knowledge and experience you would make a good candidate.

We have trouble organizing a S-B leg event let alone something of this magnitude unless there is a raffle or food involved.

OK! Since the challenge has been raise I accept. I would be happy to represent SB.Com

if you guys can give me some direction I will run with it.