long term striper management

[bloocrab]

Getting back to one of your questions,,,

.......is there any real way to find out just how many fish are taken by recs. would some sort of mandatory reporting system work in conjunction w/ the upcoming liscence.........

Paul, .....IMO,,, the only way I see this happening ..would be if every single rec. fisherman was totally honest and took the time to record and report every single outing. not going to happen, not in my lifetime anyways.

This number will always be a GUESS. Whether it's well educated or not, it will always be a guess.

Sure, it's nice to sit behind a screen reading posts written by guys who care....it's even nicer to imagine that everyone that fishes releases properly, doesn't take more than their share, yada yada yada....but it's not reality.

Do we need Official Conservation groups? ABSOLUTELY!!!
Do we need laws controlling us? ABSOLUTELY!!

Being a level-headed individual, I just don't buy the numbers being presented to me, that's all. It's a guess at best. ((Did I say that already?))

The following is a quote taken from the Sept. 3rd, 2009 Fisherman mag. #36 New England Edition:

"Saltwater recreational anglers took an estimated 85 million fishing trips in 2008, down slightly from the 93 million trips estimated in 2007. Saltwater anglers caught an estimated 464 million fish in 2008, down slightly from the 475 million caught in 2007. That the decreases were moderate reflects stability in saltwater angling"

I'm sure some of the guys on here who say they fish 7 nights a week drove this number up...

But seriously, Were any of you involved in this count? I sure the hell wasn't. How accurate can these numbers be? Would a report like this presented to a politician be persuasive in some way? .....or maybe..

We'll come up with some reports, reports that WILL incorporate facts from every corner of the Atlantic. Facts that we will present in the manner that we'd like them to vote, and pray for the best. Primitive thinking on my part? ,,, but again, JMO......



BTW.......is it winter already???

[niko]

what it all boils down to for me is what i experience out there. the last couple of seasons i've seen a reduction in the amount of fish inshore in my home waters. i'm not ready to push the panic button, but it concerns me. i'm sure the dogfish plague in my area is part of the problem and the lack of peanut/adult bunker isn't helping any. are the fish hanging offshore feeding on sandeels? if i was a hungry bass i would be. it could very well be just a couple of weak seasons in the areas i fish most or just a natural cycle that occurs. i just want to make sure my boys have the opportunity to bail bass like i have. the bottom line is i'm gonna ease up on the amount of fish i'm taking, in particular larger fish. i know there is no real way to figure out how many fish are taken by recs. it's just been a long crappy season for me basswise and i was looking for some solace in the numbers, which ain't gonna happen. on the brighter side - the fish i have caught seem pretty fat and happy. no sign of nasty red sores on any fish this year

[MAKAI]

Originally Posted by bloocrab

Getting back to one of your questions,,,



Paul, .....IMO,,, the only way I see this happening ..would be if every single rec. fisherman was totally honest and took the time to record and report every single outing. not going to happen, not in my lifetime anyways.

This number will always be a GUESS. Whether it's well educated or not, it will always be a guess.

Sure, it's nice to sit behind a screen reading posts written by guys who care....it's even nicer to imagine that everyone that fishes releases properly, doesn't take more than their share, yada yada yada....but it's not reality.

Do we need Official Conservation groups? ABSOLUTELY!!!
Do we need laws controlling us? ABSOLUTELY!!

Being a level-headed individual, I just don't buy the numbers being presented to me, that's all. It's a guess at best. ((Did I say that already?))

The following is a quote taken from the Sept. 3rd, 2009 Fisherman mag. #36 New England Edition:

"Saltwater recreational anglers took an estimated 85 million fishing trips in 2008, down slightly from the 93 million trips estimated in 2007. Saltwater anglers caught an estimated 464 million fish in 2008, down slightly from the 475 million caught in 2007. That the decreases were moderate reflects stability in saltwater angling"

I'm sure some of the guys on here who say they fish 7 nights a week drove this number up...

But seriously, Were any of you involved in this count? I sure the hell wasn't. How accurate can these numbers be? Would a report like this presented to a politician be persuasive in some way? .....or maybe..

We'll come up with some reports, reports that WILL incorporate facts from every corner of the Atlantic. Facts that we will present in the manner that we'd like them to vote, and pray for the best. Primitive thinking on my part? ,,, but again, JMO......



BTW.......is it winter already???

Anytime our goverment gets involved it's a smoke and mirror show.
Name one thing the goverment does well ?
Not that it matters I may keep one or two fish a season.
Out of several hundred, as a lot of the guys I fish with.
All released well, no kicking back in or thrown like a brick.