Striper Limit

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by Doublerunner

It would be great if the ASMFC did not hold their meetings at 1:30 on a week day. Some of us have to work...

The guys who are attending these meeting are working, just like you and I do, its their job to attend the meeting. Besides, this is NOT a public hearing, those are almost always scheduled after "normal" working hours.

[Islander77]

Originally Posted by BassDawg

1 @ 36", leave the breeder males ALONE!!!

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Breeder males???? Umm majority of fish at 36" and bigger you catch is gonna be a female... Male bass dont get that big just to let you know you have the science backwards... In most other mammal communities the female is the bigger less attractive colored one... So keep in mind all the trophy bass caught are generally female....

[Islander77]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

The guys who are attending these meeting are working, just like you and I do, its their job to attend the meeting. Besides, this is NOT a public hearing, those are almost always scheduled after "normal" working hours.

unless its today and they are in glouster protesting at the NMFS building... DUMB... I been up in the point last couple days seeing the flyers and what not....

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by Islander77

unless its today and they are in glouster protesting at the NMFS building... DUMB... I been up in the point last couple days seeing the flyers and what not....

I was referring to the guys who make up the ASMFC!

[Fisherman Brian]

Its hard to guage. I agree, 2 fish a day is a bit waistfull.
There is scientific research that says we should be letting the big guys go due to better gene pools/larger spawns from them as opposed to the smaller. But with the size restriction smaller does that mean more overall fish will be caught and brought home?

[Islander77]

oh ok Mike.... I just saw the fliers for the protest... I know a lot of the guys down there feel accosted by NMFS but its a necessary evil IMHO

[Sea Flat]

Originally Posted by BigFish

I was against the 2 @ 28" when they brought it......who needs 2 fish a day??? Many take the 2 fish every time they go out........who eats that much fish??? I voted 1 @ 34"!!

I could not agree more!!

[Tagger]

1 fish at 36 did wonders last time ... bring it back please

[piemma]

Almost 50% (49.19% )of the voters favored 1 fish 36"

19% voted for 1 fish, 34"

17% 1, fish 28"

14% 2, 28"

The really interesting stat is the 86% of the voters favor dropping the bag limit to 1 fish a day. How the heck to we get the fisheries management people to listen.

[the point]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Actually I like Maine's slot limit, 1 fish it can be 20" to 26" or over 40". I think there is some fairly sound fisheries management science behind it.

I agree with the slot limit it. Been saying that for a while.
I rather keep 28" fish over a 50" to eat any day...but I just can't catch em that small

[JamesJet]

If I had a say it would be the slot 20 - 26 or one over 40. The smaller fish are perfect eating size, target some males and also the filets would have less mercury PCB etc. If I had to choose a second it would be simply keep one fish at 28. No need for two. I have done it one occasion when we have a big party and want to serve fish but that is maybe once a year.

[intrepid24]

.....time for a short-term, coastwide moratorium. maybe 1-2 years. maybe get a few strong year classes established.

[Tagger]

Poll has me curious . Wish I could see voting results vs fishing region . Just wondering where the people who like 2 fish a day are fishing . If they are strictly boat fisherman ?

[Ed B]

The really interesting stat is the 86% of the voters favor dropping the bag limit to 1 fish a day. How the heck to we get the fisheries management people to listen.[/QUOTE]

They do listen to recreational fisherman Paul, unfortunately our recreational interests are put forth by the booming voices of the Party and Charter Boat industry.

In addition to striped bass, look at the seasonal openings and bag limits for Fluke, Tautog, Scup. It's all about getting people onboard a charter and paying a fare to stock their coolers.

In my opinion there should be seperate categories of fisheries advisors for recreational fisherman and charter boats, and the recreational advisor has no financial stake in recreational limits.

The only way to get our voices heard is to show up at meetings and state our case and that is something that recreational fisherman dont do particularly well.

Ed

[Crafty Angler]

Originally Posted by Ed B

They do listen to recreational fisherman Paul, unfortunately our recreational interests are put forth by the booming voices of the Party and Charter Boat industry.

In addition to striped bass, look at the seasonal openings and bag limits for Fluke, Tautog, Scup. It's all about getting people onboard a charter and paying a fare to stock their coolers.

In my opinion there should be seperate categories of fisheries advisors for recreational fisherman and charter boats, and the recreational advisor has no financial stake in recreational limits.

The only way to get our voices heard is to show up at meetings and state our case and that is something that recreational fisherman dont do particularly well.

Ed

Rightly said, Ed...

I went to an open meeting of the RI Striped Bass Advisory Council with DZ for the 1st time maybe 5 or 6 years ago expecting an auditorium meeting only to find maybe a dozen fishing folk there around a table in a small room

I think DZ and I were two of the VERY few there - if not the only two - who were not charter skippers - the bias toward charter boat interests was immediately obvious

If money is involved, it's a vocation not an avocation and not recreational

Ed's right - muttering among ourselves and shaking our heads will accomplish nothing

The make-up of the advisory boards with a commercial stake will always skew the results until there's some parity with not-for-profit representation

[topwater popper]

Originally Posted by JamesJet

If I had a say it would be the slot 20 - 26 or one over 40. .

I voted for one at 36" but I personally agree with this, Maine has it right. Even with a narrower slot, say 22-26".

But, I don't eat fish, I never kept a bass, not one. Revive and release them all. It's my choice to do so.

[intrepid24]

Originally Posted by piemma

Almost 50% (49.19% )of the voters favored 1 fish 36"

19% voted for 1 fish, 34"

17% 1, fish 28"

14% 2, 28"

The really interesting stat is the 86% of the voters favor dropping the bag limit to 1 fish a day. How the heck to we get the fisheries management people to listen.

just wondering if anyone would have voted for moratorium, had it been on the board......

[Redsoxticket]

Originally Posted by piemma

Almost 50% (49.19% )of the voters favored 1 fish 36"

19% voted for 1 fish, 34"

17% 1, fish 28"

14% 2, 28"

The really interesting stat is the 86% of the voters favor dropping the bag limit to 1 fish a day. How the heck to we get the fisheries management people to listen.

Attend the RI Striped Bass Advisory Council meetings with an agenda and state your concern.
All the resources are here on S-B (i.e members) and all we need is a leader and since you initiated this poll along with your knowledge and experience you would make a good candidate.

We have trouble organizing a S-B leg event let alone something of this magnitude unless there is a raffle or food involved.

[MAKAI]

Food ?

[Krispy]

Originally Posted by Tagger

Poll has me curious . Wish I could see voting results vs fishing region . Just wondering where the people who like 2 fish a day are fishing . If they are strictly boat fisherman ?

1 of those fishermen lives and fishes in CT 2 @ 28"

[BassDawg]

Originally Posted by Islander77

Breeder males???? Umm majority of fish at 36" and bigger you catch is gonna be a female... Male bass dont get that big just to let you know you have the science backwards... In most other mammal communities the female is the bigger less attractive colored one... So keep in mind all the trophy bass caught are generally female....

!!!precisely!!! hence my mantra,,,,,,,,,,,,,

if they are under the size requirement,
then they are less likely to be kept, NO?

i am well aware of the SCIENCE m'man~~~
also, by restricting our bag limit to 1/day we could limit
the catch of the breeder FEMALES that tend to be over 36",,,,,,,,,,,,

but they have to be bred at some point, and most of those GUYS are in the 22" to 30" range, i'm guessing??? are you digging my science, now Islander77? besides,,,,,,,,,,most of the surfcasters who DO catch over 36" are avid C&R guys, since we KNOW just how important the Big Gurls are to our fishery.

last question~~~ since when did fish, become mammals?

[piemma]

Originally Posted by Redsoxticket

Attend the RI Striped Bass Advisory Council meetings with an agenda and state your concern.
All the resources are here on S-B (i.e members) and all we need is a leader and since you initiated this poll along with your knowledge and experience you would make a good candidate.

We have trouble organizing a S-B leg event let alone something of this magnitude unless there is a raffle or food involved.

OK! Since the challenge has been raise I accept. I would be happy to represent SB.Com

if you guys can give me some direction I will run with it.

[Brian L]

The only reason to keep one is to eat one(or sell one to be eaten). I'd rather eat smaller ones so if there's going to be a limit, I'd like it smaller at 28." Unless I'm feeding a hungry hoard or promised a neighbor a fillet or two, there's usually not a need for the second one. If there is a need, welllll then, I'll just have an excuse to go fishing an extra night...

[Sea Flat]

Originally Posted by intrepid24

just wondering if anyone would have voted for moratorium, had it been on the board......

I definitely would not be against it. I do like to keep a fish from time to time, but I would rather just catch fish and if I have to throw it back then that is fine with me.

I do not understand why charter boat and party boat captains are so against stricter regs. People will still want to go fishing even if they have to throw them back won't they? If anything it will help their business long term.

[Flaptail]

Originally Posted by Sea Flat

I definitely would not be against it. I do like to keep a fish from time to time, but I would rather just catch fish and if I have to throw it back then that is fine with me.

I do not understand why charter boat and party boat captains are so against stricter regs. People will still want to go fishing even if they have to throw them back won't they? If anything it will help their business long term.

A couple or more big fish on the dock is advertising. Anyone who is curious enough to take time to stop and watch a charter boat unload at the dock at the end of a trip becomes a potential, though innocently enough, customer.

I knwo I worked charter boats in the 70's and the more fish you could put on the dock and have a bunch of satisfied chater clients back slapping and snapping pictures and hooting and hollering about how greath the fishing was attracts the innocent bystanders into the notion of doing it themsleves. If you put more on the dock to see then the next skipper you get more business, it's all about making money and making more than the next guy.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Sea Flat

I definitely would not be against it. I do like to keep a fish from time to time, but I would rather just catch fish and if I have to throw it back then that is fine with me.

I do not understand why charter boat and party boat captains are so against stricter regs. People will still want to go fishing even if they have to throw them back won't they? If anything it will help their business long term.

No.
their concern is that w/ lower bags people won't spend the money to go. Especially true with bottom fish.

[maddmatt]

Originally Posted by Islander77

Breeder males???? Umm majority of fish at 36" and bigger you catch is gonna be a female... Male bass dont get that big just to let you know you have the science backwards... In most other mammal communities the female is the bigger less attractive colored one... So keep in mind all the trophy bass caught are generally female....

fish are mammals now?? i've been out of school too long.

[catchnrelease]

1 or above 30" fishing should be a sport for injoyment