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11-05-2009, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fishbones
You're comparing apples to doorknobs with that statement.
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I disagree. It's 2 state elections, both of which have a history of changing from Dem to Repub every 2-3 terms. It's not like these states have been hard-lined to the Left for the last 50 years.
I'm not at all saying that I know more than WSJ or NYT, but I am saying that they are making news out of nothing. Should this be local news, yes - but national news?
Take Massachusetts. In the next Governor election, there is a damn good chance we will have a Republican Governor - regardless of how much Obama stomps for his good friend Cadillac Deval. Will that demonstrate anything on a national level? Is MA going to suddenly start putting 2 Republicans in the Senate? Will we soon put handful of Republicans into the House (which has only happened 3 times since 1983)?
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11-05-2009, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
I disagree. It's 2 state elections, both of which have a history of changing from Dem to Repub every 2-3 terms. It's not like these states have been hard-lined to the Left for the last 50 years.
I'm not at all saying that I know more than WSJ or NYT, but I am saying that they are making news out of nothing. Should this be local news, yes - but national news?
Take Massachusetts. In the next Governor election, there is a damn good chance we will have a Republican Governor - regardless of how much Obama stomps for his good friend Cadillac Deval. Will that demonstrate anything on a national level? Is MA going to suddenly start putting 2 Republicans in the Senate? Will we soon put handful of Republicans into the House (which has only happened 3 times since 1983)?
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I'm not sure you're even getting it, JD. There are Democratic leaders who are voicing their concern. The media is reporting it, not maing it up. If the Democrats are concerned, then there may be something to these results. Look at the approval ratings of incumbents now as compared to a month after they were elected.
And you know that Massachusetts is different than other states in the way they vote. That example is poor and can't be used with the rest of the country.
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11-05-2009, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by fishbones
I'm not sure you're even getting it, JD. There are Democratic leaders who are voicing their concern. The media is reporting it, not maing it up. If the Democrats are concerned, then there may be something to these results. Look at the approval ratings of incumbents now as compared to a month after they were elected.
And you know that Massachusetts is different than other states in the way they vote. That example is poor and can't be used with the rest of the country.
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I fully "get it". The Dems are voicing their concerns because they are being asked "So what do you think about XXXX election results?"
I also know that you selectively choose one thing that I said and try to refute it with a vague response, while ignoring any of the other supporting evidence.
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11-05-2009, 01:48 PM
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11-05-2009, 02:02 PM
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You wanna know what Obama has to say about that?

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11-05-2009, 02:47 PM
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no doubt.......and very presidential...........
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